Guild Wars 2

benhamann.9570:

The OP is an idiot. I knew this to be true in the first sentence : “…this game is rather empty content-wise (Especially PvE, as there is nothing to do)”. Lawl. Go away.

8 easy dungeons that anyone with half a brain can rush through, and random dragons and bugged events. Yes, the game is rich on good PvE content.

I LOVE the fact that GW2 has taken gear out of sPvP. That’s the smartest move I’ve seen in PvP in any game ever.
Still, an MMO should be built like poker: You can play even if you don’t know kitten. Random factor mixed with skill, where the best player usually wears a pokerstars tshirt.

Veldan.4637:

In my opinion this needs to be changed:

Hot join:
Winning should be awarded more here. The currently given point distribution would be fine, if only winning was more important.

And most important:

Tournaments:
Every team member should get the same amount of points here. It’s absolutely ridiculous that one of my guildies gets 300 points, while I get 50, just because I had the role of defender while he was capturing and killing. You play as a team, you should get points as a team.

Yes, definitely.
The guys that have designed the pvp in this game has no kitten clue about what they are doing.

Hi,

The way points are given in sPvP is fundamentally broken.
You need 4000 points to go from rank 16 to 17.
That’s 400 point captures. 400 for 17 out of 80.

You get no points for defending a point, unless you kill a guy.
You get no points for interrupting a capture.
You get no points for filling up the capture point’s “hp bar”.

If you want sPvP to be a grind, then at least make it a fun one. Kills and captures are the only ways to get points, if you exclude killing the trebuchet.

ALSO: Everytime a capture point ticks, the player should receive 1 experience as well.
The way it’s setup now I’m tempted to call it purly idiotic, and not very well though through (Like many parts of the game).

FIX IT.

After all, it’s the only content we got..

I just want to clarify: I don’t think GW2 is bad — I think it’s as close as you can come to a good MMO a la WoW, but the problem being that there are a lot of stuff to fix still.
You guys all use the excuse “The game hasn’t been out for 1 month”, and already floods of people are turning their backs because of lack of actual good content in the game.

To put my whine in perspective:
Guardians are OP as kitten in 8v8, because people don’t know what to do. Guardians are fine when it comes to a 5on5. That’s how I think

So my plea is this:

Make 5on5 hot join a thing.
Make arena with rating (Where you can buy gear for RATING).
Remove the whole tournament system, as it kitten sucks.
Never ever again make a water map (not until you fix your underwater combat).
If you want the sPvP to be conquest, then give an incentive to play conquest (Pulsating +10 pts for standing on a point should be the first thing to be added to sPvP next patch.)
You get out of combat after 6 seconds, no matter if the target is still alive, or you have a pet on yourkitten

That’s basically it. Everything else is fine.

And, oh yeah, sPvP is just a major grind. There is no skill to getting the gear, just a helluva a lot of time. This doesn’t encourage you to actually do good at all.
A rating system is dearly needed, because grinding for 3 years to get rank 80 is just fundamentallykitten

Deadly Toy.2630:

Carlin.1059:

Deadly Toy.2630:

Carlin.1059:

Deadly Toy.2630:

It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.

5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?

Yeah right, cause every single one of these games is totally identical to each other and to Guild Wars 2. Seriously, your argument is pathetic. Your shoving “this game is dying” into your op just to make yourself seem more valid already shows that your nothing but a troll.

Go onto other forums, where people that have experience playing competitive arena in WoW (Looking at this forum, I can smell the 1200 rating scrubbers from miles away, aka, most people are kitten clueless.). They are all kitten on GW2, and it’s poorly designed sPvP, which ironically is their only content in the game. Anet forgot to ask some people actually have a clue about PvP about how to design their game, and it shows. The pvp is made ‘fun’ (oh wee, look at mekitten, not competitively.

Yeah right, go ask the opinions of some WoW fanboys. I’m sure they are totally unbiased against Guild Wars 2. And you think just because a bunch of WoW fanatics agree with you that your right? And PvP is the only content in this game? Seriously, just GTFO, your argument is literally nothing but weak. Guild Wars 2 will never become another WoW, so you might as well just uninstall and stop wasting ur own time

GW1 had what, 340 copies ever sold? WoW has close to 70 million accounts over the last 8 years. So why the kitten wouldn’t you want GW2 to be the ‘new WoW’? Clearly, Blizzard has done something right with WoW, seeing how NO game has managed to kill it off yet.
GW2 was hyped, then hyped, and ultimately hyped some more — Guess what? It’s just another dying MMO, where they will have to drop WvW cus there aren’t enough people palying the game in 4 months to support the gameplay.
Face fact; The game is lackluster. Has no real PvE (Lol, horrible instances), has bad combat system with too few spells, GLOBAL ECONOMY (?), Duke Nuke’em style PvP, bad itemization, boring classes and a counter-inuitive hub system.
kitten is dying. Believe me. Join the ranks of Tera, SWOTOR and whatever else crap MMO that has been released the last years.

Deadly Toy.2630:

Carlin.1059:

Deadly Toy.2630:

It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.

5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?

Yeah right, cause every single one of these games is totally identical to each other and to Guild Wars 2. Seriously, your argument is pathetic. Your shoving “this game is dying” into your op just to make yourself seem more valid already shows that your nothing but a troll.

Go onto other forums, where people that have experience playing competitive arena in WoW (Looking at this forum, I can smell the 1200 rating scrubbers from miles away, aka, most people are kitten clueless.). They are all kitten on GW2, and it’s poorly designed sPvP, which ironically is their only content in the game. Anet forgot to ask some people actually have a clue about PvP about how to design their game, and it shows. The pvp is made ‘fun’ (oh wee, look at me and all the fancy animations. I can’t see kitten on my screen, but at least it’s beautiful and it has big numbers. ), not competitively.

Deadly Toy.2630:

It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.

5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?

I also think mesmers should have their toughness nerfd. Elementalist can’t take a single melee hit, but mesmers are tankier than a guardian. It’s messed up.

The fact that you can’t blow them up, is what makes them so good.

Problem with it being “10% of the game code” is that it’s 90% of the content. The game is empty. Has no content at all.
Sure, you can grind bugged/glitched events for hours upon hours, but no real PvE, and WvW is just horribly bad overall.

And then you have the spvp….

There’s a lot of “pop all cooldowns > go for the kill” builds. And that’s a major problem.

SmackMyBird.2386:

Zaor.6085:

lol@skill in this game.
In its current state 0 skill rly.

I guess that’s why some teams in Tournament play get’s stomped on with 100~ish -500 score to another team?

Why are you so set on defending this game to the bone? Are you on Anets payroll? Tell me, what’s wrong with this game? What do YOU not like?

SmackMyBird.2386:

You’re way too used to WoW.
This game’s PvP is not supposed to be working like the Arenakitten1 combo 1 kill that it is in WoW. “You cant burst someone down: Flawed” <- wth ? haha.
I’d much rather have a game without frostmages using 3 skills in a combo to 1shot your face if you’re out of defensive cooldowns, that sort of gameplay is proper bs.

You don’t have 5 abilities, most proffesions have around 15 to use, what are you talking about ?

“Downed state in PvPD” And again, just because ur a WoW baddie doesnt mean every game that’s not a papercut copy is bad, it’s a new system and it has brought with it what they wanted: Teamplay and utilization of cooldowns. (I bet you just have no clue how to properly finish people off in a teamfight so you rage xD)

Necros are crazy good if not in the hands of a kitten scrub that has no clue how boons and conditions work. Some bugged traits, yet still they can slaughter. Ele’s are too un-rewarding for the high skillcap of the proff, i agree. But these are just minor minor balancing issues, and the game isn’t even a month old. I seriously do hope you’re trolling here.

“Dodge removes the skill factor” ….. It’s one of the fewer tools in this game at actually requires skill and awareness. Proper usage of your energy ( and focusing on having the vigor boon up ) separates scrubs from good players. If a player pays attention to his opponent and properly reads how he’s about to play he can avoid a spike of damage if the opponent is careless. This ADDS to the skill factor.

There is 1 job with evade spam, possibly two. Rangers and thiefs. And even if a Thief spams away his lotus, the damage output is low as kitten, and ground-aoe’s and well-timed knockbacks screw them over in a second. Try to play the game and actually learn how to counter things out before blatantly claiming things to be unbalanced, and ontop of that the things you claim to be unbalanced is what 8v8 hotjoin scrubs moan about. (heartseeker spamming for instance, which was by far the most useless thing a thief could do vs someone with half a brain.)

There’s a reason why the “water map” is not in tournaments, it’s in the hotjoin PvP because thats where people go tokittenaround when they are bored. If you want proper PvP go play Tournaments. And don’t say “what if i just want to play on my own and have some fun, without a bad underwater map”
I’m pretty sure no other game had fun-solo PvP either. WoW for instance, nothing was more boring than solo play battlegrounds.

1/10 to this post, 90% of the things in your text is just pure l2p issues.
I agree that the PvP has alot to improve, which i’m 100% sure they will. Yet none of the ACTUAL issues were stated in your list of “bad things”. Such as having different modes, bigger tournaments, more maps, just a larger PvP experience in general. The balancing and the combat of the game is absolutely fine. It’s the things around it that needs some work.

TL;DR: Op needs to play more PvP and actually figure out how this game is built up, and that it’s not kitten world of wartard.

The hardest nuke button for mesmer and rogue, makes them unkillable. They can’t be CC’d at all. When warrior uses earthshaker, the warrior can be interrupted mid-air (Unlike any other class that has movement casts).
What I meant when I said that you can’t burst someone down was that there’s simply a lack of spells for a lot of classes. IE hundred blades (which is a horrible build) makes you stand still, and the auto attack does zero damage at all. The only real burst damage warrior has is hundred blades.
Horrible.
PvP based around cooldowns are not a good way to design a game, end of discussion.
And also, I said: Why have so many immune and evasion spells when there’s dodge already in the g ame? EVASION AND IMMUNE removes the skill factor.
And the point of evasion spamming thieves aren’t to kill, but to apply bleeds. Just a little FYI.

evilapprentice.6379:

Everything you’ve said in this post (excluding the water maps in PvP comment) -screams- to anyone who’s been pvping longer than an hour that you have NO idea what you’re doing. I felt pretty much exactly how you feel now the first 3 days I played the game – I didn’t understand any other classes mechanics, abilities, utility skills, heals, etc. Everything felt cheap and broken and OP. Then I decided to learn to play the game, and nearly everything was magically fixed. I’ve personally seen Necro’s that can hold a point against 3 players for 30s, unkillable Ele’s, and Uncatchable harrassment rangers who you can’t ignore – If the majority of people are playing stupid specs, thats on them, not the class. Also, how exactly are you measuring the fact that the “Game is dying day by day”? What empirical tools are you using? If it’s your personal feelings, or people kittening on the forums (which is WHY forums exist), well that’s just a tad biased.

Learn to play (and I’m saying that sincerely, not condescendingly), and you’ll find this game is much more enjoyable.

Talk to any former pvpers, and they will tell you the same. Take a look at various forums, and what people are saying. There is so much flawed stuff. I don’t believe many on this forum will agree me, as they are all cirkejerking about GW without being unbiased, but if you have any experience playing any other PvP game, you ought to realize just how badly flawed it is.

In what way is this a troll post? People always call stuff they don’t agree with on the internet a troll post. Pathetic.

Hi,

This is a semi-rage post, because I realized this game is rather empty content-wise (Especially PvE, as there is nothing to do) after spending a lot of money and time.

sPvP is the one thing that could make this game better than most other MMO’s; I mean it’s not the “WoW-killer” we’ve all been waiting for. People are quitting WoW because they are bored out of their minds, not because GW is a better game in any way.

The sPvP is in a very sad state atm. There are major class imbalances (Or rather build imbalances).

- PvP is cooldown based, not skill based what so ever. Some have ridiculously short CDs, others have long cooldowns, making them pure bruisers/bursters when they have CDs up which is just idiotic to a t. Lack of abilities is also a major concern.
- PvP in GW is badly designed. You have 5 abilities, and you are rarely able to burst someone down, unless you play mesmer/thief (Or warrior with a lucky stun combo). This is flawed.
-Why have a dodge system, when so many classes are evade/immune with an uptime of 80% all the time? Pointless and removes the skill factor. Press a combination > be unkillable > kill everything you see (HS spam or shortbow build).
- Warrior are good. Insane burst, but players with half a brain and some awareness can out-dodge a warrior and just burst him down in return. Mace/mace+mace is a good style to play, but it’s very slow and easily out-played as well. Therefore, warrior need some sort of utility buff and 2h mace needs a total rework (Much quicker/longer ranger).
- Mesmer’s immunity has to go. The polymorph also has to go. It’s maybe 4 seconds too long, and you can’t even cleanse it – What the hell?
- Water maps in PvP, when underwater combat is the epitome of badness in this game.
- Numbers mean nothing: I can crit 10k 10k 10k 5k, and the guy is still at 80% hp. Wat.
- Rather unrelated, but there is a major bug with the packeting system in the game, making the combat system unusable (Miss miss miss, because you are lagging on your side, while dying on the opponents side).
- Downed state in PvP. : DDD
- 8v8 zerg fest. No 5on5 hot join, bad tournament system, no matchmaking.
- Rangerseems, in my eyes, to be the picture of balance; Whilst Necro/Warrior/Elementalist are rather weak, and lacks utility and damage. Warriors ‘auto attack’ is just sad stuff.

So yeah, this game is a major dissapoint and it’s dying day by day.
The clock is ticking.