Guild Wars 2

also providing the stats that i gave, what do you think i should change? should i get more crit/crit damage or attack?

thanks a lot i really appreciate it so what your telling me is to go crit and power mostly?

Hello, I just hit 80 about a week ago and I have decided on going damage guardian using a GS.

I have done some research and it looks like I should be going after power, crit, crit damage in that order. My question is how would i set up my traits? Currently i know they are wrong but i would like to know the standard damage guardian dps build.

Right now my stats are:

Attack: 3124
Crit chance: 34%
Crit damage: 75%
Amor: 2665
Cond. damage: 205
Health: 15.7k

Right now what i enjoy doing is running up and burning people lol and just going full kitten damage, i have done some research and many people say going for cond. damage is useless because it takes so much to stack, i know some people may ask what my gear is but i am open to suggestion on what type of gear, obviously full beserk is something i was thinking about doing. is this okay on a guardian rather than a warrior?

I want a little bit of health/toughness/cond damage because i seem to die in 5 seconds if i dont lol, also i was wondering of what skills to use?

I would just like some advice to see how my stats are and where they should be, also on how to usually build and what trait line i should do?

There are TONS of builds to follow online but i have no idea which one is actually legit. I have had many people tell me that crit chance is to come before crit damage and that my crit chance is to low where my cirt damage is to high. Is this true? If thats the case then i will definetly go towards more crit.

I know i have left out what my build is and what items but it is only because i dont actually know what to do with it so i have jsut made a random one, no thought process to it.

Thank you,

Cheqdaddy

ya ofcourse! can you send me the link? thank you!

Also what type of gear would be alright for dmg and tank

Hello my fellow Guildies, I played this game as a rogue awhile ago and then left for a bit and now im back! I have played pretty much everything in other games as a burst damage to a healer but never a tank, so my question as im new to this class in this game and I have forgotten most about this game lol is that what are the more respective specs for guardians? Are they good for self heals/tank? I would assume being a guardian that tank is a viable spec? I like to be very annoying as i pvp’d a frost mage in WoW so I would assume tanks can be very annoying in pvp ? stuns etc? Is there an alternate dmg spec so I could switch to do that for pvp?

I understand that weapons depict skills so what my two questions are:

1: I do not enjoy being a straight healer so are their any respective tank/self heals builds?

2: What damage builds would I do for pvp?

Also if you could explain what to spec into and why I would appreciate it I do like advice but I like to know why for personal benefit. I try to understand a class fully before I actually play them in depth.

Thank you for your time!

again, it pertains to GW2 because its the same concept, i use WoW references but the concept is in GW2 but thanks

thank you criss cross for your post, this post does not pertain to rogues from WoW, i give the example because pvp in WoW and gw2 may be different but its the same concept, learning their class and other classes before whining about how everything is op. My whole point is that just because a class can kill another class it doesnt make them op. this post may not belong is this thread directly, but i point it in the theif thread because this is mainly about how people complain about theifs. i jsut want people to realize that they need to learn first then they will be good. No i do not think this will change everyone and all of a sudden stop complaining, but this is for the people who might think otherwise. the WoW references are their because i know more about WoW then gw2. it has the same overall concept (complaining that someone is op when its because you dont know your class). the whole down to 5k in 10 seconds is obviously an exageration, its here because thats what im seeing. its not what i think. so if you say you read it carefully it clearly says that this is what i see most commonly from other people not myself. i saw yes thats what rogues do not incinuating that theifs WILL bring you that low, it just means they have alot of burst.

thank you vol, yes i agree, or people its so much easier to complain then to jsut sit down and learn to play. it takes a very long time to actaully learn your class. you wont learn it in a month or 2, it takes awhile. thank you

thank you, i agree, its all about learning your class. Like my example: as a frost mage i would tear apart a hunter that was lower rating and didnt know how to use their class, but face one at my level and i get destroyed. It doesnt mean that Mages or Hunters are op, its that hunters counter them, thank you for your reply, yes i agree, to make it more skillful to burst. its like every other class, when you build a way there is always a weakness. if you build different ways then you have a different weakness but its all about learning that and finding out what the weakness is and to use that to your advantage.

also what im trying to justify is that people just dont attempt to learn how to play their class to the full ability. to be better then the average player in a game in PvP you have to understand each class, as i also stated: there are ways to beat an op profession, the issue is no one takes the time to learn, there is always a way if you want to learn.

sorry im used to calling them rogues, its a thief (same attributes and same idea as a rogue)

Hello, I have only really played guild wars for about a month now (i know you guys are gonna flame the kitten out of me) i do have pvp experience, i got up to 2.3k rating i wow with a frost mage and 2.1k rating with a rogue and 1900 with a pally healer. obviously wow is different than this game but before you guys flame me i definitly know something about pvp.

The problem i find with the guild wars community is that everyone complains before they try to understand things. so this is to all the complainers.

A) the most common complaint i see is that rogues are over powered because of their burst. what people dont realize is that, thats what a rogue is built to do. Obviously some abilities are going to be op, its how all games work. how many times have people played a game where everything is 100% balanced? it jsut doesnt work that way. certain classes will be more op and then they get nerfed and then others are op. BUT a rogues weakness is and always has been defence. rogues are built to tear through squishies. put a rogue up against a guardian and its a joke. it doesnt mean all of a sudden guardians are op and rogues suck, it jsut means you are playing a counter? its like in WoW, my frost mage will destroy rogues BUT put me up against a hunter and i get ruined. it doesnt make hunters op. the reason why they beat rogues is because of all the defensive abilities. if you live through the 5-10 secs of burst a rogue has then there done. thats the definition of burst.

B) another common complaint is that omg a rogue brought me down to 5k health in like 10 seconds. yes this is what a rogue does. you may be low but by that team the rogue has blown everything he/she has and then its time for you to win. Instead of complaining about this, try and learn what to do when a rogue comes. Every class has its own weaknesses, you have to try and learn those and learn to counter them. This is how you get better in pvp. CCing a rogue is devestating to a rogue. rogues cant do much if there slowed or CCed. Now guild wars doesnt seem to have diminishing returns which will make it easier to CC a rogue. rogues are not really built for consistant dmg, there built to run in and kitten But again put a rogue against a tank and they get ruined.

C) another complaint: OMG I SAW A ROGUE 2 SHOT SOMEONE, THEIR OP. no their not, it al ldepends on skill. In WoW with my rogue i could tear through a 1300 rating mage but get one thats over 2k and i cant do kitten. its all about learning each class. if you dont know each class and what they can do then your not going to do well in pvp. Pvp is alot more complicated then people realize. this is why people always tell others how to beat certain classes. im sorry but if you dont know how to kill someone then how can you expect to kill them? pvp is not about button mashing, its about different strategies for certain classes.

In conclusion: i obviously realize at certain times classes are op when others are not. this is how pretty much every MMORPG works. dont worry give it time and your class will be op. People always say that omg all a rogue does is stealth and backstab over and over, yes because this is how they are good. its called a cookie cutter build. if you played a rogue would you be like well i know this is reallly op so i wont do it, i’ll do something else? no because everyone wants to win. instead of complaining maybe learn how to beat one? like in WoW mages get ruined by hunters BUT if you play it properly there is a couple ways to stand enough to kill one. Again i realize i am referencing WoW alot but its what i am experienced in. obviously it is different then guild wars but pvp generally has rules that make it the same in every game. i also play league of legends and its the same kitten. OMG THIS GUY KILLED ME HES OP, no maybe you just aren’t as good? people never want to admit that someone is better. i get ruined by certain people in guild wars or in wow that i probably shouldnt but it just means that the guy is better.

Therefore this thread is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM talking about how rogues aren’t op or certain classes aren’t, this is jsut to the complainers and trying to get people to understand that if someone kills you, dont flame they could be better then you

Thank you, i realize people are going to flame this thread, and that generally means that you cant admit it, so flame all you want, its not going to change anything

also if i am wrong with anything to do with guild wars 2 then please let me know, i admit that i dont not know that much about guild wars as i do other games, this is just my opinion

thank you for your advice but so i would assume if i build d/d i go for precision/condition? not power?

thank you

ya thats the problem i am having lol, i want to get toughness/vit but i cant sacrifice my precision or power to get it, i just didnt know if there was a way to attakc bosses without getting ruined lol, i mean i like range abilities but shortbow gets really boring after awhile lol

thank you for the advice i would assume d/d is more precision/condtional damage? i would like to build precision/power but would that be s/d? i really do enjoy the whole cloak and shadows in backstab

yes i do keep that in mind what some people dont realize is that everything has a weakness lol, you go glass canon and by that you sacrifice alot if not all of your survivability, i am definitly opened minded, i do enjoy glass canon (after playing a frost mage pvp in wow lol)

ya i know that, it just seems like if im not a guardian then i get ruined (obviously guardians are a natural tank) but i mean like i get ruined badly. obviously my toughness/vit isnt that high thats why i was wondering if i can sacrifice a offensive ability for a definsive and still be alright? what elite skill would you reccomend?

shadows refuge seems very nice i will definitly look into that

also i have been reading forums about stealth capping and that rogues can stealth virtually all they want, what would be the best stacking for this? usually i combined cloak and dagger with backstab but i mean in no way shape or form am i stealthed all the time with minimal time unstealthed

Hello, i just started a theif about 2 weeks ago and i just reached level 35. I have some questions though, i usually play a mage (played a mage in wow for 4 years) and i am a huge pvper (got to 2k rating in wow) not saying im a pro but i definitly have some experience in pvp (not a aswd user LOL), but i could not get into a mage very well in this game so my next style of play is the rogue (thief). my question is that what weapon set is usually pretty good in pvp and pve? i currently run d/d and shortbow. i havnt done much pvp in this game as i want to hit 80 first (i believe in lvling to the max to learn the character)

My other question is that i have just tried the AC dungeon and it seems like thiefs get ruined in boss fights? i am probably not doing it right but i try to always evade away from bosses stuns and aoe but i currently build a cloak and dagger into back stab build but it just doesnt seem to be working as i find myself using my shortbow mostly (for me that is not truly a rogue i want to use my daggers more).

maybe thats not the best build? also now as a relatively experienced rogue player i would assume you would go for max precision and conditional damage? obviously rogues are based on crit but i hear people use conditonal damage but then dont use any conditions much? as for my skills what would be your opinion to use for pve and pvp? i currently use venom, signet for extra power and the signet for precision and i got the elite skill where the person turns to stone (this was a mistake as it doesnt work the best for pve lol)

So thats pretty much it, if someone could answer my questions that would be greatly appreciated I would just like to gain a better understanding of thief’s in this game.