Guild Wars 2

TexZero.7910:

No but do you actually think them adding to the game is a bad idea, because that’s what they did.

If they want to aim the game towards my interests and keeping me as a happy customer, then yes. It is a bad idea, or at best a neutral one, depending on whether they put something sufficiently desirable behind it that it becomes difficult to just ignore. And development time spent is not free: those resources could potentially be diverted to other tasks which might interest more people.

Are there enough raiders that spending this time is worthwhile? No one but ArenaNet knows. I don’t think they are doing very well at keeping their core demographic supplied with things to do though, so maybe they should focus on that more instead of continuing to do new experiments.

From my perspective I honestly doubt that GW2 can attract enough raiders to make it worthwhile, as it seems rather basic compared to what raid-centric MMOs like WoW have to offer. But who knows.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Just because you are ignoring my entire argument does not make you right, nor me wrong. Raids are accessible. That you have to step up your game for them is not an excuse to complain. Groups can be made, guilds can be joined. There is even a section on this forum for this!

That guy on reddit has his reasons and they are good ones in his case, but they come from him and not the raids, so how does that make the raids exclusive?! By that logic the entirety of gw2 content is exclusive and inaccesible for the people who have no time to log in at all…

But if you are not interested in putting forth the effort required (because of other priorities, perceived lack of fun, whatever) the existence of raiding still has no value for them personally. And while they are of course still available to people in theory, do you really expect them to appreciate you giving them something they did not ask for or want? If I go to a restaurant to order a steak, and then receive a dish with fish, I am unlikely to return. Even if the fish is well cooked and can theoretically fill my hunger. :p

This is the case for me at least. Sure, I could put in the effort and presumably succeed. But 10-man content doesn’t interest me, and thus has no value (to me). Of course not everything has to be relevant to everyone, but HoT has been very light on content since release from a “casual” pve small group standpoint, and I imagine the content has been used up by most people. I know I have outside farming skins that don’t interest me, and I have been playing around 8-10 hours a week on average which is hardly much in mmo terms.

The argument on the release of HoT was that the expansion would be system heavy and the content would follow afterwards. Now it seems there will be at least around a year without any new non-raid PvE content (Also according to the AMA no elite specs outside expansions, so not much going on there to utilize their shiny new system either).

Are raids to blame here? Hard to say without an inside look at how resources are spent within ArenaNet, but it is easy for people to look at the content currently coming out and say “this is not what I wanted”, especially when they don’t feel they have gotten a particularly good deal lately. I think that is probably mostly what is happening here, rather than “raiders are not supposed to have nice things”.