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ps we only had around 10 ppl at the time

i thought u gave up on eb, sneaky, still check for mesmers next time, had fun porting our zerg in

@uhindo.4731 i wasnt whining, just showing how ppl abuse the buff.

@Ilesyt.7084 idd its easy 2 take out but gets tricky when u r logged at eb alone, it got counter trebbed tho

speaking of dz’s cheap tacs a treb by spwan really? is this the only way u can take back ur keep?, as soon as i down one they run bk 2 get the buff, hahahahha nice one

Idd that screen shot was at anza, but there was another time at velo after, sadly i didnt screen shot the one at velo, probably for the best as i dont want this thread to get locked as sajuuk was decorating my poor corpse

those were the days that ros were fighting, i remember that day we capped anza 3 times with thiefs rezing my mesmer’s corpse for portal (from inside the tower ofc), until a zerg came 2 watch me, it was also a win since 3 man party was distracting a zerg for a good while, we tried velo but angry commander was doing nasty stuff to my corpse :P, but we got overlook 2 times using this tac

u can post all u want but:

1)Anet isnt admitting the fault is on their end.

2)Since they arent admitting they wont do anything.

3)It doesnt matter either your from Poland, Germany or Swaziland this lag is worldwide coming from Anet’s side.

4)Most of this lag started after they “improved” the game with their last patch

5)This is what you get from f2p mmos.

dz dz dz, here i was trying 2 defend u, for 2 hours no uw player was able 2 log, and when we came bk, u had sm and 3 of our t3 towers, shame i logged in after to take it all back and downgrade ur towers

@Ilesyt yesterday at men on eb, dz tried 2 take if from us but we got them, however after we tried overlook and it was going great, but dz attacked wc t3 tower and took it gg, so we pulled our forces back and for the next 12 hours we didnt even touch ros side on eb, even left anza and men for u to take with no defense, while we were just fighting dz, only reason it seems dz only go for u is because we fight them off at our towers, so they dont end up capping it, so capping towers from ros only seems logical in their view, believe me there is no such thing as servers only attacking ros and leaving each other alone, at the morning yesterday, wc was under attack by dz zerg, and ros attacked klov, we fought them off both, however it was hard as we didnt have enough ppl at the time, so at times it may seem 2 servers r ganging up on the other but simply this is how it goes in a 3 way battle.

enjoy

Sajuuk.6420:

Sorry guys.. but if this is the number diffrence this week.. then i’ll be doing PvE alot.. thats 2:20AM GMT and its 5 vs 25+ ( i know it s 25+ bcoz they made a fight marker at the camp they took before this ) and yet i still notice this odd pattern that no matter what we do the main fight is still over at our side of EB… ( and yes i know that dzag was in UW BL most of the day today ) Anywho.. enjoy the rest of the matchup.. i think i speak for my whole guild when i say we cba with this for a 3rd week in a row.

no more paint jobs? , shame to see u given up so easily

Immolator.5640:

Sceinna.3561:

XT & WIC + rest of the alliance left to Piken Square I got told, which is really sad for this matchup and especially for RoS, I kinda feel them as a similar thing happened to UW in the past.

Heheh funnily enough we’re facing XT now as they’re on Piken – only fought them twice so far, in the morning, about 20 of us and the same of them; they hit us the first time while we were on the move with our guard down (silly me), we were wiped, second we wiped them whilst they were stationary and together, so 1 all

Ironic, this, isn’t it?

P.S. Don’t be alarmed that I’m creepily reading this, people don’t post fast enough on the other threads

Having an easier time with XT than SIN it seems

I left wow as it was too old, swtor as it had lack of content, now am leaving gw2 due to the dev not giving a single **** about us gamers, support is very poor, forums are ignored, noone answers tickets and some problems had been there since launch which means it takes Anet months to fix their issues, well good thing elder scroll online is coming out this year, if they can have all players in one server with no lags i have no idea why i lag in spvp with 16 players due to a new patch.

As i said on the other thread this unwanted stupid patch is making issues for me and so many other people, the game was fine and actually playable, ofc its was working too well so it had to be messed up by stupid patches, is there anyone from dev reading this? at lest tell us your working on it, as am seriously considering leaving this game due to the lack of support, noone answers tickets, forums are ignored and issues take months to solve, might go back to mmos where dev actually care about their customers

Since release the game was fine, after this big patch i simply cannot play during peak hours, we were happy with the game the way it was, why do you implement patches that cause issues for everyone? plz in future make sure you get it right before you implement anything

Madara.3126:

at launch break i have some interest battle with UW 2 ele and a charr mesmer (from fight fire with) in EB, between Ros start wp and Overlook..just want to know who they are and if we can battle some another time..
only a few battle seems so interesting and with such a good player..i enjoy to prove myself vs strong enemy to grow up more!if someone know who they are pleas tell me!
cya (the mesmer with cof armor set)

The ele in whispers armor was me, /w me anytime for duels

Leopoldina Balanuta.2871:

Atlanis.1473:

Well go RoS Bl next time, just cause you need a base for your accusations.

To the rest of RoS, don’t feel offended, this was aimed at the whiney bunch here on the forum.

Keva Windrift [Rain]

Oh noes, please no RoS BG, we grow flowers there, and there’s peace and panda bears, we haven’t got invaders from uw there since ….. i even don’t remember, there are CHILDREN playing in our keeps now, please, no war. /sarcasm

Numbers are the same mate, BG is a choice, if you’ll be here, you will lose elsewhere.

That was one alliance hitting RoS BL, our other alliance had an event for Dz bl yesterday and normally focuses on eb, we need to stop all the QQing, angry commanders comments made half of uw want to focus on RoS, now because of this QQing the other half of uw is making their events at RoS bl, comments from angry commander only hurts RoS as taunting other servers makes them want to go for u.

As uw players we need to understand that angry commander is just one person and we shouldnt just focus on RoS but have nice fights all around, as for RoS players nothing good comes from boasting instead it makes other servers go for u and then u complain about it which leads to more people going after u.

I have been having good fights all around, i have friends in RoS and friends in Dz, i would like to thank you for the good match up so far, and lets plz try to keep it clean from now on

Since RoS took our waypoint at our garrison its only fair we build one at theirs

Thanks for the fights at dz bl, we had fun, 3 servers fighting for bay yet we uw manged to saved it 3 times vs XT, WIC and the DZ zerg. gg really enjoyed the fights.

About the situation for eb, dz almost never goes for sm or they treb, we dont like to treb much as treb wars is boring in my opinion, effective yes but nevertheless boring, RoS been going for sm all week, trebbing from their EB keep most of the time, everytime we attack Dz, u guys treb or attack sm, so the only thing we can do is cap ur towers and keep u from trebbing sm, its not that we dont attack Dz, u guys simply asking for attention, trebbing sm while being outmanned is asking us to attack u. we attack all towers and all keeps in eb, but we have to send out force to deal with threats in order to keep u away from sm.

Ty both server for amazing fights so far, lets keep it up

Commander Soul Stone I (APE)

To RoS thief from GoA i would like to thank u for nice duels, shame our duels got crashed few times, its the dd ele from uw, would like to have more duels /w me any time

plz keep this thread clean, uw has been called “dirty players”, “hackers” and now “zergmuchworld”. we never called any of Dz or Ros players any names even when we lost to them in past, been enjoying this week so far, so lets please keep it clean and enjoy the fights.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Daddydeath.9371:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Daddydeath.9371:

Crossplay.2067:

Be very weary of when you use daggerstorm. Some mesmers will pop out clones excessively, just to get you to use it. They are looking to cast Feedback on you (it’s the dome that forms around you and hums). This reflects all projectiles and WILL reflect every single dagger you toss out! If you can break the daggerstorm animation, do so. If not, find a way to use retaliation before Daggerstorm. Due to weird game mechanics, that will cause all the hits to hit the mesmer.
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i wouldnt worry about feedback while in daggerstorm as daggerstorm reflects projectiles itselfs, having feedback on it would just mean that projectiles will keep bouncing. however confusion is what u need 2 worry about while in daggerstorm + condition dmg which will come from killing clones

This is not correct. Projectile reflects will not reflect reflected projectiles. A projectile can be reflected 1 time. After that 1 reflection, the projectiles can no longer be reflected again, and will simply ignore additional projectile reflections. Additionally, if the field that reflected them is a combo field, the reflected projectiles will take on the attributes of a finisher of that field.

I dont think ur correct, easiest way to test this is bonus frac which has mobs that reflect projectiles, shoot something at them it reflects back, have a reflect projectile on urself and u will see them bounce back, am not sure on the number of bounces but its more than one or two for sure, feel free to tests it.

I actually noticed this, and they are the single exception to the rule. However, you can still see my rule work even in that fractal. When they reflect the reflected projectile, you can not block it with another reflect. It will hit you no matter what. Those mobs are, to my knowledge, the only things in the game that can ignore that rule.

Few times in wvw or spvp the same thing happened, it would be nice to get an answer from the dev, conforming the number of bounces is indeed one and sometimes it bugs or if it is more. in frac and spvp i counted the number of bounces to be at times from 2 to 3, and at times 1 to 2

Sajuuk.6420:

That was a very nice fully upgraded stonemist you had there Underworld.. do you like the Angry Commander style paint over i gave it? i think its better in red… oh and wood is a bit more environmentally friendly dont you think?

grats on taking it, shame we couldnt let u have for a long time, we pulled our troops from sm in order to protect our other towers, being attacked on two fronts is hard to deal with, dz were capping our south towers and even tried keep while ros attacking north towers and sm, i guess uw painting ur eb keeps blue for days makes u the angry commander even more angry

Pyroatheist.9031:

Daddydeath.9371:

Crossplay.2067:

Be very weary of when you use daggerstorm. Some mesmers will pop out clones excessively, just to get you to use it. They are looking to cast Feedback on you (it’s the dome that forms around you and hums). This reflects all projectiles and WILL reflect every single dagger you toss out! If you can break the daggerstorm animation, do so. If not, find a way to use retaliation before Daggerstorm. Due to weird game mechanics, that will cause all the hits to hit the mesmer.
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i wouldnt worry about feedback while in daggerstorm as daggerstorm reflects projectiles itselfs, having feedback on it would just mean that projectiles will keep bouncing. however confusion is what u need 2 worry about while in daggerstorm + condition dmg which will come from killing clones

This is not correct. Projectile reflects will not reflect reflected projectiles. A projectile can be reflected 1 time. After that 1 reflection, the projectiles can no longer be reflected again, and will simply ignore additional projectile reflections. Additionally, if the field that reflected them is a combo field, the reflected projectiles will take on the attributes of a finisher of that field.

I dont think ur correct, easiest way to test this is bonus frac which has mobs that reflect projectiles, shoot something at them it reflects back, have a reflect projectile on urself and u will see them bounce back, am not sure on the number of bounces but its more than one or two for sure, feel free to tests it.

Crossplay.2067:

Be very weary of when you use daggerstorm. Some mesmers will pop out clones excessively, just to get you to use it. They are looking to cast Feedback on you (it’s the dome that forms around you and hums). This reflects all projectiles and WILL reflect every single dagger you toss out! If you can break the daggerstorm animation, do so. If not, find a way to use retaliation before Daggerstorm. Due to weird game mechanics, that will cause all the hits to hit the mesmer.
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i wouldnt worry about feedback while in daggerstorm as daggerstorm reflects projectiles itselfs, having feedback on it would just mean that projectiles will keep bouncing. however confusion is what u need 2 worry about while in daggerstorm + condition dmg which will come from killing clones

well fact of the matter is eles and rangers r getting nerfs soon so enjoy

enjoy http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/

clones dont dodge, clones dont walk side ways or backwards. clones usually dont have chaos armor, unless he used chaos storm and leap. clones dont deal much damage unless they stop attacking and walk to you, thats a shatter so dodge it asap.

since ur stealth heavy build, u must have condition removal in stealth every 3 seconds and regn. try to use shortbow skills while in stealth or caltrops since it doesnt break stealth, gaining stealth of his clones is the best option however wait until ur condition is cured before u attack.

best way for condition thief is to put as much bleeds and poison as u can, wait for the mesmer 2 use their heal then use thiefs guild and steal to buff up them up. never use daggerstrom fighting a condition mesmer, as he can just use confusion on u therefor u end up killing urself.

when fighting 1v1 always use thiefs guild and steal after, for coniditon build thiefs its a must as a burst can come from it which all condition classes may lack as their dmg is of a sustained nature

i thought i would get this response from the ranger community, as ppl when they play a class they hate 2 admit its overpowered in some areas and always think their class is underpowered and need buffs, same story with ele and thief community, might as well make necro’s marks not viewable, hey lets make all aoe not viewable then let me see QQing about being hit by things u cant see with very small cd. hiding behind things such as “L2P” is very pathetic as its an attempt to hide the fact that there are some areas which rangers can beat any other class with, and u cant then “L2P” yourself, anyone who says rangers arent op needs 2 “L2P” as they r not using their class the right way, i seen a trap ranger destroy every single build people brought. as dev said that they are looking closely to traps, so the nerf is coming, not as soon as the ele nerf but it will come and thats where i will look back at this thread and laugh as people not able 2 use a very good class blaming other people saying to them “L2P”.

Abrun.2734:

#1… i play ranger so this may be bias.. but its not very hard to run off a trap when you spring it… once you leave the range for the trap it those conditions well disappear after 1 second… so if you are a ranged class you have an advantage over the ranger in that he can’t use his traps effectively… however on melee.. u gotta find a way to keep us locked down.. RANGERS HAVE 0 STABILITY (Unless u run Rampage as one)! so you wanna nerf our condition dmg and leave us defenseless? kinda stupid if you ask me.. i think ppl should research a class more before they QQ about it..

defenseless? plz having 4/5 evades is hardly being defenseless, never said i want condition dmg 2 be nerfed, all i said i want traps 2 have viewable circle like the rest of aoe in the game, as i said being punished for stepping on invisible circle isnt fair

Belzebu.3912:

I may sound really noob here, but can someone please post this trapper build and the overall equips used, because I used to run a trapper/precision build that wasn’t that effective in WvW, now I’m running a trapper/BM hybrid build but I’m not sure about equips.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNAV8YjIV51tVyVoWCg2jMtET2DDd8xvAvgC2UB;TUABXEftWYEw+DA

precision isnt normally good for condition builds as ur condition ticks cant crit

anyway here a very good version of the cbuild

enjoy

kidbs.8920:

Daddydeath.9371:

Thiefs can be beaten with aoe, knockbacks and cc. eles can be beaten with condition or high burst, so far im yet to find a counter for that ranger build, if u do know plz let me know, since its not op as u say then there must be a way 2 counter them? if so i would like 2 know it. rangers may need buffs in some builds i agree, however the trap/condition/evade combo is a nasty one and should be nerfed

All good thieves are running with condition removal + regen on stealth, so conditions alone won’t kill them. If a thief ever gets too low on hp he always has the option of completely escaping and resetting the fight (something that no other class has except maybe an ele).

A good bunker ele will not be beaten by a thief either due to their insane healing and condition removal. Eles also have excellent mobility and CC, so they can also easily get away if needed.

Really you just listed 2 classes that should have very little problem killing a ranger and are considered the most OP duelers in the game… I don’t mean to be nasty but I think an L2P is in order.

am willing 2 duel u in spvp anytime, show u it isnt about skill, come duel me then say l2p after

Here is what am asking for:

1) Make traps aoe viewable like the rest of the aoe in the game

2)buff other rangers builds so people have more than one or two ways to be a viable class

we got some discussion going on, i appreciate the feedback, maybe in time i can find a way 2 counter them, good point about the necro marks, so might as well make them invisible 2, getting hit by invisible aoe is very very hard 2 counter, u step on an invisible circle, u get fire, poison and immobilize which buys the ranger some time to flank u for more bleeds, the best way 2 know how 2 counter a class is 2 play it and get used 2 skills, cds etc, i dont say rangers traps r op caz i lost to one trust me, i say it caz i havent found a way 2 avoid circles which i cant see, i would like them 2 work like necros marks, or might as well make all aoe in the game not viewable 2 bring balance into the game, i dont want traps to be nerfed, i just dislike 2 be punished for stepping on something i cant even see

Meandor Berdor.5438:

Daddydeath.9371:

Thiefs can be beaten with aoe […]
however the trap/condition/evade combo is a nasty one and should be nerfed

1. and how do you deal with an instant kill from steal + cnd + backstab + heartseeker?
2. just because its “nasty”? lol. a thief is also “nasty” so nerf him!

every class has a build that is “nasty” in some way. find a build to counter it and you are fine…

stun breaker, 2 dodges, the thief has wasted his initiative and will most likely go to stealth, by heal or cloak and dagger, stay away from melee ranger and cc, most thiefs would be dead, if they go stealth just aoe, mistake ppl make is that they run away from the thiefs, easiest way to beat them is to make them waste their initiative cc and aoe

not whining but having a discussion, i play on few classes and build, condition build thief, condition build necro, dd ele, and burst shatter mesmer, none of them stood a chance, i even play ranger, usually when i play a class/build i may win or lose thats normal, however none of my builds or classes could beat the trapper ranger, am asking for a counter not whining, my solution is to either nerf evades, or to show traps like the rest of the aoe in the game, avoiding invisible circles isnt easy. also i think dd eles has one of the best condition removals in the game and it still couldnt keep up with the insane condition dmg

Thiefs can be beaten with aoe, knockbacks and cc. eles can be beaten with condition or high burst, so far im yet to find a counter for that ranger build, if u do know plz let me know, since its not op as u say then there must be a way 2 counter them? if so i would like 2 know it. rangers may need buffs in some builds i agree, however the trap/condition/evade combo is a nasty one and should be nerfed

I came across few trap rangers using shortbow, with sword and dagger in a condition build. I think they are abit overpowered with access to ccs by pets, very good condition damage with around 4/5 evades, + dodges and endurance regn if you have the right sigils.
AN said they will be nerfing dd eles which is understandable however if u lock an ele down or put a large amount of condition they will go down. however im yet 2 find a way around to beat the op trap rangers as i cant get close caz of traps, and if i do manage they have 2 many evades and dodges which means u cant even lock them on a place and even if u do they will just not take dmg. i think trap rangers r the most op class in this game and need some balance