Guild Wars 2

I just think the whole concept of banning for profanity in a Teen rated MMORPG is a bit silly.
I guess when people are hacking and slashing their opponents to death in a gruesome display of WvW violence, the most horrible thing they could witness is someone saying a naughty word.

simplesimon.2084:

DanceGavinDance.2651:

bluestocking.6148:

There we go! Suspension worked! Hugs all around!

I believe that if profanity is against the code of conduct, the game developers should not include an option to disable profanity filtering. It’s extremely misleading.

A lot of people turn it off becauss it block words or parts of words that in there context are not bad, but the filter would block them.

Just havd to be aware of your suroundings. Map chat in LA, not the best place for questionable language. In a party with friends you can use language more losly.

I ran in a couple “talk like a sailor” groups and it’s a blast. You just have to find like minded people.

The thing that bothers me is that for someone to have read what I said and interpreted it as offensive, they would ALSO have to have their profanity filter disabled, and yet I was reported anyway.
If I hated receiving emails from games and wesbites that I belong to, I wouldn’t tick the ‘send me emails’ box, you know?

3 days for nothing more than saying a bad word seems pretty harsh to me, I guess.

bluestocking.6148:

There we go! Suspension worked! Hugs all around!

I believe that if profanity is against the code of conduct, the game developers should not include an option to disable profanity filtering. It’s extremely misleading.

bluestocking.6148:

This is why they don’t give you warnings. They’re not interested in arguing with you about it – and since you’ve spent several posts arguing about why you shouldn’t have gotten a suspension for it with people that can’t even do a thing about it, I can’t imagine you’d listen to a “Don’t say that word again please.”

But maybe I’m wrong. So … don’t say that word again, please, or use another slur of any kind to refer to your opponents.

I won’t be using ANY even SLIGHTLY offensive language EVER again while playing Guild Wars 2.
It just strikes me as very odd, because I feel as though as a paying customer for a Teen rated game, I’d at least be able to turn OFF my profanity filter and swear without fear of having my character banned.
It’s a precaution I’ll obviously take, but I feel as though it’s one I shouldn’t have to.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

On my servers we have players as young as 5 years old. All players know that NO foul/inappropriate language of any kind will be tolerated. They are given a screen at their first login stating the rules and that they are family friendly servers that they have to agree to in order to continue, and there are pop up reminders between loading screens as well that rotate.

None of these measures are taken in Guild Wars 2.
There was a section regarding offensive language in the part of signup that most of us hardly read at all and just click ‘accept’

In Australia, if you said that word (or any swear word) in public, even around another black person, you would receive a dirty look AT MOST.
Most people generally seem to understand that the word isn’t always intended in a derogatory fashion, and that the mere inclusion of a particular word doesn’t transform a sentence into an insult against all black people.
The world is a fascinating place.

Australians take their language far less seriously, there is a lot more profanity in Australian media as well. For YEARS a major tourism slogan was “Where the bloody hell are ya?”

The whole social stigma that surrounds a simple word is outrageous. It only contributes further to the distorted and disproportionate attitude so many people associate with it.
It’s perfectly acceptable to make the ‘Okay’ hand sign in Westernized culture, however all you need to do is go on Wikipedia to see that in several countries it even has vulgar meanings.

Context and perceived meaning are things that we apply to words and language through social convection and popular culture over the course of several years.

To suggest that an MMORPG community of over 1 million is exempt not only to the wonderous phenomenon that is global culture, but to the world of explicit language is preposterous wishful thinking.

It comes down to a matter of business management vs player behavior. In an absolutely massive and successful game such as Guild Wars, is it safer to say that it is going to attract players from around the globe and therefore should take into account global differences in culture when slapping around bans for misconduct – or to assume that players themselves should consciously make that connection at all times of play?

I personally do not think throwing out 3 day bans for profanity is going to solve the issue. ESPECIALLY if people are not warned prior to receiving a 3 day ban.

Granted, I will DEFINITELY not be swearing again, but I feel as though I shouldn’t have to watch what I say in an online environment that I payed 60 dollars for. I’m not a child in elementary school and STATISTICS would argue that the vast majority of people I’m playing with aren’t either.

And if we’re arguing that American’s find the word more offensive than other Nations, I may as well bring up a free speech debate and argue that if we can’t arrest the Westboro Baptist Church under the guise of free speech, why is banning for something as minuscule as profanity acceptable?

This sort of thing is extremely rare in other games, especially MMO’s.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

Basically, Anet does not give warnings for anything.

How peachy.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

I run multiple gaming servers, and that single word earns a player a lifetime ban from all of them instantly, automatically and with no chance of an appeal.

No offense, but that’s really, really harsh. You would instantly permaban someone from a game server AUTOMATICALLY with NO CHANCE FOR APPEAL for just saying the N word? What kind of environment does that encourage?
I would think that players would be afraid to utter the wrong phrase for fear of being PERMANENTLY BANNED.
That’s outrageous in ANY community, let alone a gaming community.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

If they gave out punishments according to what was said, you would probably have your account terminated so you are lucky it is a standard suspension for all.

I’d have my account terminated within 4 days of purchasing the $60 game for as little as saying the N word?
That’s not a gaming environment I want to be a part of.

“Cursing in public chat channels is like cursing at an Olive Garden. You’ll get kicked out if someone complains. “
Are we honestly comparing the public chat of an online MMORPG whose main playerbase is aged 25-35 to Olive Garden?
I don’t mean to be rude, but I play Guild Wars sitting in my room in my underwear with some cordial at 2am. The internet has an entirely different culture.

I am honestly really quite shocked to find that the word carries such horrible consequences and social stigma within the U.S.
I guess maybe it has something to do with the fact we oppressed our native population of aborigines on an absolutely disgusting scale. There’s not really a word like the N word that we have though.
Words only have power if we give it to them.

Again, a warning or smaller ban would have sufficed.
72 hours for saying the N word seems like overkill.

I just thought it was a little strange seeing as I didn’t specifically refer to any individual. I referred to the collective group of enemies in WvW.
The language clearly wasn’t intended to offend and a simple warning or even a small ban would have sufficed and shown me where the border is for offensive language in this game.
A 72 hour swing of the banhammer just seems excessive and will likely breed resentment in any similar cases of language.
I don’t see the point in having a profanity filter if the use of profanity gets you banned anyway.
/banmad

I guess maybe it’s a cultural thing.
Australia really doesn’t give much of a kitten. We’re laid back, I suppose.

Nate Anabe.6091:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/How-to-Submit-a-Ticket-Account-Issues-2/first#post285416

Thank you so much, looked for something similar to this but wasn’t able to find anything

This game has a swear filter for a reason. If someone is likely to be offended by such language, then I don’t know why they’d be playing an MMORPG with a swear filter turned off.
Is it seriously not acceptable to jokingly say the N word? Has society honestly degraded to such a point where we can’t even say a single word, even in a completely non serious fashion without expecting to be reprimanded?
I mean it wasn’t even directed at anyone in particular, I’m just a little surprised regarding where the line is drawn.
I suppose if the ban sticks then there’s nothing I can do, but I’ll be pretty taken aback that an upstanding company like Arena Net would throw around 71 bans for something as little as saying the N word.

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to be posting this, but I wasn’t able to find any information concerning where I should submit a ban appeal ANYWHERE.

I was just banned for inappropriate language.
Granted, it wasn’t the most polite thing to say, but I highly doubt I offended anyone.
When playing in WvW, I said “Let’s go kill some kittens”

At first glance it’s understandable how it could be interpreted as offensive, however, I’d like to think that any reasonable person would see it as being all in good taste.
Obviously I didn’t LITERALLY suggest that our group of 20 go and slaughter black people.
I was referring to the enemy as “kittens” in a joking sense. The enemy team is obviously not entirely comprised of black people.
I’d like to ask if my statement was really worthy of a 71 hour ban.

I understand that we’d like to reinforce some semblance of order and authority in the game world, but we aren’t in elementary school. Most of us are actually adults, I believe. If anyone was TRULY offended by what I said, then I apologize – however I doubt this is the case.

I would love for any assistance concerning review or appeal, as it would be highly appreciated