Guild Wars 2

Alysara.6194:

Yeah this is really annoying. Why apply a patch at 10:30pm when servers are busy? Can’t you wait until 3am like sensible MMOs do?

They could just shutdown the tournament NPC and wait for all tournys to finish before applying the patch…. Or something like that.

BTW: Astonishing (yet unbelievable) update as of 00:34 CET.

Dear ANet,

you managed to ruin two tournaments in a single evening by appling not one, but two patches. Keep it up guys, you can still do 3.

Or 4.

Dear ANet,

How about warn players and/or avoid broke all tPvP when applying these patches? This is like the 5th time we lose our Tournys that way….

Just wondering if you guys are at least aware of the disservice you always create in the mists when doing so.

Any news on that?

zastari.1730:

…Or you can just hop servers and fudge the glicko system up then complain more in this thread.

I think you missed the point here: I don’t think anyone who agrees with the OP failed to understand that you have to either ride the big whale or evade it when you’re not on its top, and gain some profit either way. It’s just that some ppl don’t think that this system/ruleset is fun enough, even if the numbers on top are saying you’re doing great.

Agree with the OP 100%: as it is right now, WvWvW is only numbers and geographic coverage. People who understood that already started gathering people from other servers, mass-guilding, putting up a timezone rotation: a perfect example of that is the “Project Blacktide” thread in this section, which is absolutely reasonable if you adopt the given WvWvW ruleset, yet unbelievably sad for the underlying messages you can read between lines:

- The matchmaking system doesn’t work, since ppl and guilds need to xfer/rearrange themselves in the meaningless effort to cover the frontiers 24/7 in order to score or keep their points.

- Since everything gets sacrified over the altar of the geographic coverage, any homeland zerg – which every decent WvWvW player knows being just plain bad, since it frustrates the overwhelmed opponents to the point they cannot even play – is not only good, but greatly appreciated. “We can sleep well, since there are tons of ppl defending our pts”.

- Who cares about the actual game, the actual gaming fun: this is the given ruleset and we’re focusing on winning @ it, no matter how poor it can be.

I know that most ppl are thinking that geographic coverage, massive-presence building and guild coordination could be seen as “strategy” or “logistics”, but IMHO we should start being honest with ourselves and just admit that it’s only a well-planned way of outnumber the opponent – or not getting outnumbered, which is absolutely the same exact thing. The real logistics implementation should be built around the supplies/warmachines/point system, whose implementation is far from good and rewards high numbers way more than skill/organization. The real strategy implementation should be built around keep defence/keep fights/open field fights, whose implementations are far from good (see the OP post for details) and rewards high numbers way more than any skill/organization. But most importantly, is the WvWvW scoring system (and the transfer logic) that needs to be fixed asap.

Let’s face it, in its current state WvWvW it’s just about leaders/commanders “leading” their G8 of people against smaller ones (and fleeing from large ones). I’m not saying it can’t be fun sometimes but come on, don’t we just deserve a bit more?