Guild Wars 2

Xentari.5604:

JonPeters.5630:

Diamond Skin
We really love this trait as it opens up some very powerful potential in the earth line to run a defensive elementalist without relying on healing power. The strength of this build is going to be the ability to quickly string small heals together to maintain that condition resistance. I think it could see use in both high damage builds looking to avoid weakness and blind, as well as in defensive builds looking to tank condition heavy classes and condition heavy mobs. I think the big question here is the base health/armor of the elementalist. Of course if you are just an elementalist you just want us to raise these, but balance must work around some fixed things and profession health and armor are an important part of defining what a profession is so that we can create powerful tools that players can actively use to circumvent these weaknesses. In this case if this trait is not powerful enough to be a grandmaster, I believe the right answer is going to be to lower the threshold, not to increase elementalist base health.

I feel like, at the very least, Diamond Skin should give some sort of visual cue to avoid being detrimental to the builds other condi classes run. Similar to how when a warrior pops Endure Pain, you can see it on their buff bar. This allows classes to respond (i.e: don’t dump your entire burst on a warr who is just going to negate all the damage). Without this small change, Diamond Skin would forever be unpredictable and basically considered OP by the community at large.

I’m loving most of the Ele changes though. I’m also very thankful you guys at Anet are sharing this with the community. Good luck with the fine-tuning!

there wont be a visual que because it is a passive trait which means it is always on until they hit <90%. it is not hard to stay above 90% when you are a bunker w/ clerics ammy and put up against a full condition build when you have something so OP as diamond skin

Minokinz.3564:

Darnisu.3042:

Dasenthal.6520:

I play primarily Ele, have a Thief and Ranger but I don’t really pay attention to them, so I’m not gonna bother with them…
Please keep Diamond Skin, while it seems like a lot of people are saying it’s going to be OP against condition damage builds, I don’t see how it can really hurt that much. Yes if you run 100% condition damage then you just won’t do any damage, but very few builds can run entirely 100% condition damage.
My greatest fear as an ele who focuses primarily on condition damage will be running in to another ele, specced just like me! However even we will have the option to swap into lightning and pound each other down to 90%. I don’t know much about other classes, but I know warriors have plenty of non-condition burst, Necro’s have shadow form (or whatever the class skill is called), Guardians have heavy hitting skills, thieves have backstab, Mesmers have shatters, and I don’t know that ranger’s have much in the way of condition damage (I could be mistaken, and sorry for leaving engi’s I know absolutely nothing about them) so while it could force someone to adapt their playstyle for part of the fight, isn’t that the same thing we do everytime we fight a Mesmer? Instead of just pick and shoot, we have to pick the right thing to shoot.

Let me spell this out to you. if you are a full condition thief trying to kill this elementalist how do you expect to kill them with your d/d 3 spam build? you cant. Simply because you have absolutely 0 physical dmg. condition immunity is going to make every condition heavy build completely broken against this trait

Not to mention that in terms of spvp you only have a limited choice of amulets, and the amulets more focused on condition damage tend to have either power or precision, not both. In addition to that elementalists have quite a few ways of staying topped off in fights so staying +90% against a condi build wouldn’t be too hard of a feat to accomplish.

You, Madame understand how this is going to end. <3

Dasenthal.6520:

I play primarily Ele, have a Thief and Ranger but I don’t really pay attention to them, so I’m not gonna bother with them…
Please keep Diamond Skin, while it seems like a lot of people are saying it’s going to be OP against condition damage builds, I don’t see how it can really hurt that much. Yes if you run 100% condition damage then you just won’t do any damage, but very few builds can run entirely 100% condition damage.
My greatest fear as an ele who focuses primarily on condition damage will be running in to another ele, specced just like me! However even we will have the option to swap into lightning and pound each other down to 90%. I don’t know much about other classes, but I know warriors have plenty of non-condition burst, Necro’s have shadow form (or whatever the class skill is called), Guardians have heavy hitting skills, thieves have backstab, Mesmers have shatters, and I don’t know that ranger’s have much in the way of condition damage (I could be mistaken, and sorry for leaving engi’s I know absolutely nothing about them) so while it could force someone to adapt their playstyle for part of the fight, isn’t that the same thing we do everytime we fight a Mesmer? Instead of just pick and shoot, we have to pick the right thing to shoot.

Let me spell this out to you. if you are a full condition thief trying to kill this elementalist how do you expect to kill them with your d/d 3 spam build? you cant. Simply because you have absolutely 0 physical dmg. condition immunity is going to make every condition heavy build completely broken against this trait

In the ele buff Earth XI – Diamond Skin. This trait has been redesigned. Conditions cannot be applied to you when your health is above the threshold. 90%. This upsets me. Can someone explain to me how one is to get an ele under 90% without help? (when you are full condition) I think it is a bad buff because anyone that is full condition obviously has terrible physical damage and thus has no way of getting the elementalist under 90%. This is honestly the most broken thing I have ever seen, and I feel that Arena net hasn’t thought twice about this buff.