For my family, it’s going to be ultimate package for everyone. We can live without the new armor skin, spearmarshals presence. Seems like they put little work into a existing armor skin and renamed it. Not impressed with that. And the permanent pass is still a question mark. However the $50 worth of gems in the ultimate makes it worth it. If their selling POF for $30, then technically I’m not paying for the character slot, identity kit, lame armor skin, or the permanent pass. Anet is just throwing those in for free. So since I’ve been wanting another character slot for Christmas, this is a more cost effective way to get what I’ve been wanting to do anyway. So Christmas for my family is coming very early this year. Oh well, nobody here will mind.