Guild Wars 2

Thesilentflute.8761:

Ostricheggs.3742:

I hate to say it but bunkers are one of the hardest classes to play in the game. It’s one of the most important jobs and THE most under appreciated job. A good guardian wins games.

Of course it helps if one or more nodes is controlled by a player that has to be burned down by 2+/5 to remove them with the same spawn time but don’t kid yourself about it being skillful. Just think if you had 5 bunk guards then they would need at least 10 players to win. It isn’t just guards any class that goes bunker is cheese because the scaling is kittened up.

Lol I’m sure all the other bads that play bunker will agree with you. I didn’t say it didn’t help win games I said its cheese and only trash players/guilds go that route.

I guess every good team that has ever played this game is trash…
It’s not just about holding a point. It’s coordinating CC with your team’s burst. It’s peeling. It’s managing to get off stomps and reses. There’s so much to bunker Guardians that is underestimated, especially in the EU meta.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

DrakesGreenEnvy.9683:

Raaka.9784:

Thanks for your hate NA ppl.

Im bad player… i put wrong buttons sometimes ;D

but best build for guardian is 00203020 or 00302020.

No cleric amulet… better choice are shaman or soldier

Weapons set: Sw/sh – ma/fo, sce/fo or hammer

Kissessss :x

And why is focus a good off-hand to bring, and why sword?

Focus brings nothing to a teamfight except more survivability for yourself as well as a very gimmicky blind that rarely lands.

Please try and make some credible points.

Well, why focus? more survivability to you (how selfish these bunkers are!!), It’s in most cases a safe-stomp (if no stability is up), it’s soooooooo much easier to cap shrines on temple or orbs on SW. Is it really that bad?

Why Sword? It’s an instant port if you being knocked out of the point, it’s a blind, you are 3 secs immune to projectiles. And the best part: your third attack on it will hit 3 times. If you put +5% crit-chance on it this means you have 30 – 40% crit-chance. If you traited right you get vigor on crit-hits. Ergo you dodge more, ergo on every dodge you heal nearby allies.

That’s just my point of view and relies on my gameplay. So the good thing about bunker guard is you can pretty much trait everything. The only thing that is really necessary is “Pure of Voice”. No need to bash ppl down because they have a different meaning.

Most of the time, vs. good players, the focus block won’t allow you to cap buffs.

“Why Sword? It’s an instant port if you being knocked out of the point, it’s a blind, you are 3 secs immune to projectiles. "
So you’re bringing sword to compensate for your lack of map awareness (i.e being knocked off point). You’re also bringing it for some more self-survival (3 seconds of projectile blocking).
If you put 5% crit chance on the scepter, and pop smite in the middle of the node or a teamfight, that’s ALOT more hits than the third hit on the sword 1, ergo a lot of vigor procs, ergo you dodge a lot more, ergo you heal your allies.
What you DON’T get with sword is an almost instant immobilize which allows YOU to cause pressure on the opposing team.

No, you can’t pretty much trait anything. There are optimal builds which give the most leeway to perform well in most situations in TPVP.

Raaka.9784:

Thanks for your hate NA ppl.

Im bad player… i put wrong buttons sometimes ;D

but best build for guardian is 00203020 or 00302020.

No cleric amulet… better choice are shaman or soldier

Weapons set: Sw/sh – ma/fo, sce/fo or hammer

Kissessss :x

Is there any reason why you think that is the best build, and that shaman’s is a good amulet?
And why is focus a good off-hand to bring, and why sword?

Acandis dissected your build and told you why it’s not very viable (using numbers to prove his point)

Silven already explained to you that there are diminishing returns on armor values over 2.9k…

He also explained that Scepter is invaluable just because of that ‘almost’ instant immobilize that can be game-changing if used correctly.

Focus brings nothing to a teamfight except more survivability for yourself as well as a very gimmicky blind that rarely lands.

Please try and make some credible points. There’s no need to make this about EU vs NA, because you clearly don’t represent the best EU has to offer. At least, I hope not :/

Acandis.3250:

Raaka.9784:

Acandis.3250:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Raaka.9784:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

A really good idea to interest ppl in PvP and also a good support to casuals and beginners. Keep it up!

Great videos and good job , but… This build is old :/

Not working anymore in EU competitive pvp.

Amulet is wrong and traits is wrong too… another stuff is good

Best guide available till now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1pxWk8MSw

And this is the reason everyone in EU runs useless selfish builds…

U-S-A….HAhaha… i run 0 0 30 20 20! I would say it is best guardian build right now in EU competitive PvP games. (better than Dantos)

My build link is my stream so check it out… Thats all.

Try it.

Your posts reek of ignorance. It’s pretty obvious you just slapped stuff together hoping it would work out without devoting a single minute to actually crafting a a sensible build.

First of all, I watched your stream regularly while I played in EU, it’s pretty clear you don’t know what your buttons do, as you generally spam spells in the wrong situations. Secondly, even if you build was “the best in EU” there are 5 different maps in the tournament rotations, each of which have different objectives, you can’t possible hope to be competitive and use the exact same build for every map.
Thirdly, I will break down your traits & utilites, since Silven already explain why the weapon sets aren’t ideal.

• Valor
  • Purity: good choice.
  • Honorable Shield: also good choice given that you use shield and you’re willing to go deep into this tree.
  • Altruistic Healing: lolwtf. You don’t have a build that benefits too much from this; you don’t have anything that can apply a lot of boons often. Your boons are:
    • Shield of Judgement: will heal you for up to (77×5=385) or (77) every 24s.
    • Ray of Judgement: will heal you for up to (77×3=231) or (0) every 25s.
    • “Stand Your Ground!”: will heal you for up to (77×2×5=770) or (154) every 24s.
    • “Hold the Line!”: will heal you the same as SYG every 28s.
    • “Save Yourselves!”: will heal you for (77*7=539) every 48s.
    • Virtue of Justice: will heal you for up to (77×3×5 + 77=1232) or (308) every 25s.
    • Virtue of Resolve: will heal you for up to (77×5 + 77=462) or (154) every 50s.
    • Virtue of Courage*: will heal you for the same as VoR every 75s.
    • Might of the Protector: this is actually an extremely strong trait that can heal you for a lot if you time your shelter right, which, from looking at your VoDs, you don’t.
    • Vigorous Precision: will heal you for (77) every crit you land.
    • Adding all these up gives you a total of 4,851, that’s 33.5% of your total HP, that’s very little compared to the numbers you can get with a build that would actually take advantage of AH.
• Honor
  • Superior Aria: good choice. Pretty much a must with any shout build.
  • Pure of Heart: lolz. Your Aegis will heal you for 729 every time it’s broken. Given that, the only source of Aegis you are using is VoC, this is only going to proc every 40s if it’s off CD, at 50% HP, or when you rally (getting ressed doesn’t count).
• Virtues
  • Vengeful: This is a terrible trait for your build. Firstly, you only have 5 sources of retal, with very should duration/long CD. Secondly, retal scales off Power, and you are running minimal Power. So your retal ticks are gonna be hitting for 176.35; that tickles.
  • Absolute Resolution: good choice.

Before I finish, I want to say that all the calculated numbers above are based on the Healing Power on your build. The numbers on the left are if you’re entire team is around, the numbers on the right are if you’re by yourself, which is most of the time seeing as you’re always sitting on backpoint. Additionally, you will get absolutely destroyed by condi builds, you have low condi removal with very low HP.

While you may think you have the “best build in EU” I assure you, the build is garbage and you don’t even play it in a way to take advantage of the traits that you pick. And even if the build were good, you still play like garbage.

So before you start picking on other people’s builds and claiming yours as the best, take a few minutes and actually think about what you’re doing and how you’re doing it, because I’m telling you right now you may think you’re a hotshot, but you won’t even come close to winning against any NA teams with that.

Well stated.

Most NA Guardians and even top EU guardians run the 0 0 10 30 30 build with cleric’s amulet.
I’m pretty sure Azshene from EU runs that exact same build.
0 0 10 30 30 provides more team support than a 0 0 20 30 20 build. What the latter build does provide is slightly more toughness to the Guardian himself, however the best way to optimize for being a bunker guardian is maximizing the amount of support you have.

Watching your VoDs, I see that you run with sword/shield + mace/focus… You aren’t providing very much team support. Instead, you’re providing yourself with an excess amount of survivability which, in most situations, is not needed (since you won’t be the main target).

It was stated that it would “take up to a week”. This compiled with the fact that we have received no real updates for 7 months has the community pretty riled and rightly so.
I don’t think it’s fair to be giving threats to a frustrated community that freely gave their money to what was supposed to be a very respected company.