Guild Wars 2

Arioso.8519:

Eh fumigate is already a really strong skill, it already poisons so adding boon strips may be a bit too much, it’s already plenty flavorful, imo. The reason I suggested acid bomb and super elixer in particular is because they’re already labeled as “Elixer” skills but don’t actually benefit from elixir traits. I really think those two skills should count as thrown elixirs to begin with for the purposes of traits. Heck, ACID bomb should have the effect of ACIDic Elixers as baseline, thematically speaking.

Since Acid Bomb has a 5 second duration on 5 targets, would that mean it could potentially strip 5 boons x 5 targets = 25 boons? Thats beastly unless it strips with its blast finisher?

Super Elixir on the other hand doesnt have any offensive utility so having it strip boons could make sense. Since its a field, though, it falls on the same issue with Acid Bomb. 5 boons x 5 targets = 25 boons stripped? Again, maybe it strips with the original impact heal.

Getting both might be too much.

Xinrut.1743:

Makes most sense for Cleansing Formula 409 to be kept in Alchemy minor to make most use of the complementary elixer traits. Otherwise it just forces people to go into another traitline they might not want for their build.

I’m hoping it was just wonky placement in the Powerpoint and a dev can confirm.

Yeah, I feel like it was a slip up, especially since the new design is meant to keep us focused on specific trait lines for specific builds. 409 as it was previewed doesn’t fit into that design philosophy.

Dev confirmation would be great.

Arioso.8519:

If they want it opt in, how about it gets baked into the new elixer gun trait. I think we’re losing acidic elixirs too, so let’s merge that in.

New trait: Reduces Elixir gun cooldown (Or if the cd is baseline, boost E-gun damage instead), Elixir skills (Which will now include both consuming and tossing elixirs, as well as the initial impact from the Acid Bomb and Super Elixir skills) will cleanse a condition from affected allies and strip a boon from affected foes. The elixer gun currently has terrible synergy with elixirs and the alchemy line, which is kinda weird, so this trait would fix that.

I like the idea of mixing 409 with Acidic Elixirs because they both utilize the toss elixir mechanic.

I also agree that E-gun has never really meshed with elixirs. That being said E-gun is a very strong kit with a lot of utility. Fumigate already cures conditions on allies but maybe giving it the ability to strip 1 boon per target would give it some more flavor?

Either way, I’m now all for 409 and Acidic Elixirs getting meshed together.

At about the 2 hour 30 minute mark Jon Peters responds to someone in chat suggesting 409 should be the 3rd tier minor trait for the Alchemy line.

From what it sounds like, Jon thought this person’s suggestion was meant for the Tools line. Either way, his reasoning was “it is elixir only and if you dont have any elixirs it doesnt work.”

If that’s the case then why did they put it in as a Grandmaster in the Tools line?

Is this a simple oversight on their part or a credible decision they’ve made? I’m concerned that 409 will waste a Grandmaster option for Tools. 409 as the third minor in Alchemy seems reasonable.