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IMHO, the story should have gone as such:
/highly approves/ Oh my God, yes. Here comes my money for all of these edits. I wish we could have you writing the scenario… Your version is 100000 times better than what we’ve played…
Then why did you blame her for the fleet’s destruction?
Okaaaay… The big secret I was referring to is not the egg, but the fact that Caithe knew for sure that the sylvari were Mordremoth’s minions and were incredibly vulnerable so far from the Grove.
She could have warned Trahearne or the Commander, but she didn’t.
What could the egg help the fleet not get destroyed?
Um, please, read my message again. I didn’t say a word about the egg.
Caithe’s plot armor is beyond ascended. She can act as utterly unaccountable and untrustworthy as she wants, and she will never face consequences.
Yes, sounds like her. The entire fleet was destroyed because she didn’t trust anyone with the big secret of hers. Remember “Point of No Return”? “It doesn’t matter anymore. The secret will come out on its own soon enough. Already, sylvari have been losing control of themselves. Mordremoth won’t stop there.”
SHE COULD JUST HAVE TOLD TRAHEARNE OR THE COMMANDER TO STOP THE ASSAULT AND SAVE ALL THESE DEAD/CORRUPTED PEOPLE. She knew what would happen and just kept her mouth shut. Seriously?..
Okay, I got a bit better, so I can ask a couple of rhetorical questions without so much emotions and tears.
Firstly, why just killing the dragon wasn’t enough for a good ending? Was it so hard not to make a drama out of everything? What was wrong with the old good plan “1) kill the dragon 2) save a friend”? What happened in the final act didn’t feel like victory. It felt like failure. The horrible expirience I wish to escape.
This entire expansion the Commander was forced to make stupid, OOC decisions. Save their friends? No, let’s explore some ancient ruins. Jump down with a glider to save Eir from the mordrem? No, let’s just watch how it’s killing our friend. And in the end we have to kill Trahearne… Why? Doesn’t matter, just do it. And how did the Commander take his death? They. Didn’t. Even. Care. They tried to argue a little, but then just killed their friend and was off to play big bad heroes with their new team. Hey, remember, the Commander got new friends, they’re “boss” now, they’re finally in charge. So forget about DE and Trahearne. Who needs those old losers anyway (sarcasm). It may sound way too rude, but I don’t care much about Marjory and the others, I haven’t played LS1. So, who I should care about when two of my faves are dead and what is left of DE is out of picture?
Secondly, why does it look like the Commander lost their mind in the jungle? Caladbolg has cleansed Orr from dragon’s corruption, why couldn’t it cleanse a sylvari? Why couldn’t we go to the Mother Tree? We didn’t even try to save Trahearne and that’s the worst part about his death. His fans had to worry for almost a year about him and when we finally got a chance to save him, we postponed it until the very end. I’m angry and bitter and I don’t understand why it had to be that way.
Trahearne had nothing to do with Mordremoth, Caithe did! It would have made so much more sense if she was forced to steal the egg by the jungle dragon. But no. Her new Wyld Hunt just happened out of the blue with an additional lame exuse “I couldn’t trust anybody with it”. Sure. Not your guildmates from DE, not the Commander or Trahearne, not even the Pale Tree. And we’re just like “okay, whatever, I still don’t trust you and all, but let’s go”. So she’s safe and sound, while my favorite character is dead – for nothing but a cheap drama.
I’m not telling you, dear writers, to rewrite that… finale. It’s almost impossible to fix it now, I got it. But for Mother’s sake can’t we, his fans, hope for his return in the future? If sylvari can have a new Wyld Hunt, why can’t one of the most powerful beings on Tyria – The Pale Tree – bring her most loved son back? Not that I really believe you’ll make us such a gift…
As it was said before me, the music and the maps are incredible. The work of composers and designers is the only thing except Canach’s character development I genuinely enjoyed as a sylvari player. It’s like Anet actually paid people for doing their job while the writers were working for a spoon while reading haters’ posts on reddit. I know some people hated Trahearne because he “stole their glory” or because he was a necromancer with a sword… Well, I hope all these people are happy now. Caladbolg? Check. Kill Trahearne? Check. Well done indeed. Such a “great” plot.
By the way, where is Garm? What happened to the Pale Tree? To the corrupted sylvari? To the Pact? The expansion was supposed to be a huge completed story, not just a little part of LS with a cliffhanger, but here we are, left with so many unanswered questions…
This expansion could have been excellent for me. It got a potential and a great material. But instead of fun I got an episode of “Game of Thrones” I never wanted. I just wish I didn’t spend so much time and money on the game I don’t want to play. And I wish I could just say “I can ignore that stupid plot twist and play again, I love the game and I love my Commander”, but no. I can’t. Unfortunately, my interest in game is destroyed almost completely.
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Obsidian
Oh, I wasn’t accusing you! All I meant was it’s okay to love the story, and I’m glad for you if you do, but I have the right to have my own opinion and to not be happy about it, or, at least, about some parts of it.
Once again, I’m not sad because of the fact of two main characters’ deaths. I’m sad about how they were written. The emotional response from my side was definitely not the one the writers were hoping to recieve from their fans. It was icredibly unsatisfying and disappointing, but that’s just my opinion and I’m not going to repeat myself over and over again.
There are plenty of people really enjoing the expansion and I just wish I could be one of them. But I can’t, at least for now. Hope you’ll exuse me for not wanting to continue this discussion, but it’ll be better for me to distance myself from anything related to the game for some time.
And sorry for asking if you were trolling. I honestly didn’t know anyone liked Trahearne, that’s why I asked. :-/
It’s fine, though you’d be surprised. There are actually a lot of people there, who really like Trahearne and are also not so happy about his fate. But I guess, these people were playing the game peacefully and had nothing to whine about on the forums, unlike the haters, who just wanted Caladbolg for themselves and were crying constantly about a character ‘stealing their credit’ somehow and how they wanted to kill him personally… Well, the whine was heard and now they can have it all. Hope they are happy now.
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At the risk of stepping over the line, I don’t think your anger is warranted towards ANet.
Your feelings are passionate and sincere, and I realize that perhaps you let your personal life get somewhat entwined with the GW2 narrative. But I don’t think you can lay blame at the feet of the writers for “killing off” your favorite character. A story, especially a fictional one, shouldn’t be expected to cater to individual preferences. It stands on its own merits, for better or for worse, and whatever course it takes is entirely on the shoulders of the author(s). Not to say you can’t disagree with it, of course you can. But to blame them for any personal anguish is probably crossing the line. Please try and understand that.
If you were simply trolling, bravo…you fooled me. But this is your only post you’ve ever made. And your angst seemed genuine.
No, I wasn’t trolling at all, and I don’t think it is wise to suspect a person of trolling only because they disagree with the devs or are upset about something.
Also, please, don’t try to psychoanalyze me, I will appreciate it very much, thank you. The game has nothing to do with my personal life, though it was an important part of it for almost a year. Yes, I really loved its story and characters, it inspired me greatly, so, yes, maybe I was a little bit overemotional in my initial post, but I’m not inclined to apologize for it.
I understand completely, that my despair and anger are my own business. Sure, I’m still very tired, sad and disappointed, but all that doesn’t matter. But I don’t see why I can’t blame the writers for the poor writing, for the cheap plot twist. The story didn’t write itself, you know, and it’s entirely on their shoulders, just like you said.
So I don’t blame the writers for my ‘personal anguish’, or my hurt feelings, just for the lazy writing, because yes, that was a ’killing off’.
Same story with Eir, by the way. Both Trahearne and Eir appeared just once for the whole expansion, only to die dramatically and pointlessly, while there was so much potential for their development.
I suppose, I would have been mostly okay…ish with their deaths (though it would have been still incredibly sad and devastating, especially Trahearne’s death, since he is one of my favorite characters ever), were they properly written and justified. But they were not.
I’m also not okay with some other things in the story, but this particular part just makes me really, really mad and depressed at the same time.
That’s all my personal opinion, of course, and you don’t have to defend the writers. If you are happy with the story – good for you, lucky person, but I am not.
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I just want to tell Arenanet that GW2 used to be my favorite game. Not only among MMOs, btw. It was so interesting and beautiful and the plot was so great, I couldn’t stop playing. But then I paid 50$ for Heart of Thorns expecting a lot of fun and adventures. I don’t know if I want my money back or pay you more for fixing one thing that is very important for me.
Trahearne's fateYou know, I can take Eir’s death. But what you did to Trahearne (who was my very special, my favorite character *EVER*)… I was hoping all that time that you, who claimed that he was your favorite character too, let us save him. Why not? You didn’t kill Marjory because people liked her! Why is Trahearne any different? There’re a lot of people who like him. _I_ love him to death. He was my only reason to buy HoT.
Please, don’t tell me “he died hero” or anything of this bullkitten. I don’t need this “adventure”. I don’t need that stupid sword! I just want my favorite salad to be okay. But no, you didn’t even give him a chance like Logan and Zojja.
In the end I paid 50$ for my ruined mental health (I can’t stop crying for 2 days) and I’m not sure if I ever play your game again. I don’t want to. I don’t need it. It hurts too much. There were times when this game helped me to beat my depression, but this time it caused it.
You know what’s funny? You’ve changed names of stupid dyes because some people weren’t happy about them, but I’m sure you’re not going to give Trahearne a second chance because of people who genuine like him. You always were known as developers who listened to your players, but this time it seems you’ve been listening only that part of fandom who wanted to kill Trahearne for the kitten sword. Well done. Thank you so much. I literally hate you for that.
And Astralaria is as dissapoiting as Bolt so far…