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Sutcliffe,
yeah the sword damage is high and the question is not if scepter has higher dps – the question is how much lower it is =)
I mean that a ranged wepon can give much more utility and mobility (distance is not a big metter for a scepter – though you can get to far with a sword so it cant hit – dps loss)
The question between torch and focus – yeah this one is optimal – a little more dmg (really a little?) or more survival and support.
So what i meen is – in perfect situations, where you just stand and hit, sword should deffently be better than a scepter.
But thinking of a dynamic fight with dodges – void zones and stuff to run arround and get away from – a scepter should give the player the utility to give constant damage and it COULD be biger in the end.
As i said – I just thought of it and I am really not sure if this could work.
And yeah a perfect player will shurely deliver more damage with a sword – but someone not that good might just blow it all up with a wrong roll or just a miss of the swords third attack.
The build itself is just something to think of – I have said already I am to new to this game to know the mechanics and all the fights.
So for sure it can be just a mad mans voice. =)
Anyway I am so much thankfull to anyone here who wrote and explained me something. It really cleared a lot for me and made the game much friendlier to play.
Sutcliffe,
yeah normaly you would take powerful blade – but these are options no do do it and take a torch out for additional damage from throwing the flame (+ lesser cd)
Still one thing I am really not sure about – is it worth the blind and the sield from the focus.
I dont know, the idea of a ranged guardian isn’t that bad if it doesnt lose much of the damage to swords.
The main problem is that I have no idea how much dps I am doing exactly !
So it is hard for me to compare if a scepter is that much weaker.
DrPhro,
I thought of the torch as additional damage =)
Also the “Radiant Fire” talent made me think of it as a possibillity.
And I have no idea what to take if not “radiant fire” . Maby you have a better idea of how it could look like.
And what do you think, will the damage be much worse than with a sword ?
And yeah consecrated ground should work better – due to no cooldown reduction on shouts.
Sutcliffe,
sounds logicall, vigor gives more survival as dodges and 5 in virtues gives additional damage (in exchange to the 10% we are losing not going into zeal)
To be honest, due to the fact that I am a very new player I don’t know how many boons you aproximatly have while in a fight.
But if there are at least 5 of them up the loss of 5% damage isnt critical, I think.
Dont know, I would really love to here some more people say something about this build – is it even worth trying ?
The melee range is okay due to the fact that you can easely switch the range with a scepter without losing damage because you are to far away to strike the boss.
That should give more tunel – damage, if seen in general. No idea how it works in reality.
Also i am wondering if there is a method to somehow see the dps you are dealing.
Something like a dps-meter or something…
Regarding my mad ideas – the scepter build.
To be honest i feel much more safer a little more far away from the huge things we have to face =)
So as I’va asked you a post higher – what do you think of something like this
Just a quick draw – also not sure about the torch and the sigils in the weapons
(to be honest I have no idea by now what are usefull sigils and which one are not + which of them stack and which not)
So what do you think of it – should be quite a hard-hitter + providing almost the same support.
akamon,
again thanks a lot !
The picture gets more and more clear for me. So yeah i got the main idea of the zerging in PVE – it indeed looks like the best option possible.
“Kill fast or be killed”
Regarding the Healway build – yeah I was just wondering if it could be ok – but yeah let keep it in WvW , where i will give it a try for sure =)
After I’ll get home from work today I want to try the sword+focus thing.
What I really liked about sword was the way it applies burning to the target – 3 attack count kitten – amazing !
So yeah sword day today =)
Still i am kinda lost with the hammer – from one side it looks totally great
- great dps
- protection
- free symbol
-and some utility it gives with the 3 and 4 skills
- Looks great
But man, this 3 strike kills me =D There were moments when I used my 2 skill not waiting for the 3 hit to land …
Regarding the scepter – there were moments in COF yesterday where i just dreamed of going range , and the staff just didnt made me feel comfortable. Thats why I thought of getting my scepter out for the second weapon.
The only thing I’ve liked about the staf was the speed thing while running arround =)
P.S. Oh just thinking of it – what about ranged guardian dps build ? Is this possible just like other classes are able to? (like pistol rogues- rifle warrior e.t.c.)
I geuss could be very great – because a scepter look like hitting very very hard
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DrPhro,
yeah I’ve seen this build on “Tap dat mouse” youtube channel.
It looks very amazing and I will try it on WvW and PvP for sure – but first i need to get some equipment for this.
As I mentioned (and totally forgot about the build) on the youtube channel the build is called “WvW roaming \ PVE” .
Do you think it is really not that great in PVE ? yeah it doesnt give that much of support for the party – but the damage seems very VERY high, and the surviving looks just some kind of imbalanced =D
Here is the video I’ve watched
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n10zCIsXxc
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Cat Has Ducks,
yeah it looks like I just dont see the whole picture at the moment.
So our best position right now is a high dps – support role. Ok i think i just have to live with this right now =)
I want to try this build today,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GKZP3oyik0
(You also did post it higher)
WOuld you recomend the hammer build over this one because of the protection ?
It looks just a little more mobile to me.
Maybe just because of the faster hitting sword, dunno =)
Right now, as you said, I have a little understanding of how to use my cooldowns.
Is there maby some sort of a rotation – or recommendations how and when.
When i did some COF runs yesterday, I had some issues knowing when my party needed protection and when to dodge – roll, shout or cure condidtions.
I guess that this will just come with time and practice but still, maybe you have some advices.
WvW is great, but Pve was the thing to go for me in all games because of its all time evolving structure and more options of playing it. But I will play all the possible modes for sure =)
Regarding the staff – I’ve just noticed that everyone whos build i looked on youtube (Brazil also) had a staff as a secondary weapon.
But in ranged fights I feelt that a scepter+shield was much more of a use.
Again thank you very much for your great answers and the time it takes you to bring all this to me =)
P.S.
Oh and I just thought that maybe I should start with a aword + focus (second option of this build) because it give a little more chances to survive (blind + 5th skill)
What do you think of it?
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Cat Has Ducks,
I am just thinking of a little different role a guardian can perform.
Because it looks like that today we HAVE to run the damage build or we will be not much use in dungeons and fractals.
I personally, like i’ve said before, was more the tank-guy in other MMO’s i’ve played. Maby thats why I’m looking for alternatives.
I’ve rached level 80 today and did some COF runs with a friend.
The problem for me was, not regarding the dying due to little exp as a full zerg guardian (i’ve used the hammer build you have posted), the little mobility the hammer gave me because of its long charging third attack.
Also it wasnt not that much of fun for me to just hit the mobs and trying to dodge their attacks.
Thats why I’ve looked for some sort of support build with more party utility.
But regarding your words it is not much of use nowdays (mace + shield + staff)
I’ve also liked the scepter much more (compared to staff) – could you tell me maby a little abut what makes the staff so special that everyone is using it as the second weapon.
And getting to the point – so this support build is not much of use? I guess the problem is just that other classes are better supports – am I right?
Hey guys,
looking through youtube i’ve found an interesting video.
I would really like to know what do you guys think about this build and playstyle.
It is some sort of tank-support guardian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPXOmZneuOs
looks very interesting to me – is it worth it ?
Or is nowdays the only role we are fit for – damage in full zerg ? =)
akamon,
yeah all those machanics are really new to me and frustrating. It looks like i really need to get used to all those reflections and skill-survival.
Thank you for the guide – this is for sure another usefull reading (=
Thank you guys a lot.
After reading your posts and looking a Brazil i decided to first try the sword-focus build.
I just love the way of an 1h weapon a little more, never was a fan of 2h weapons – being a tank for the most time of my MMO carrier =)
But the hammer build looks also very cool to me – still it lacks some mobility as it looks for me, in exchange for additional defense.
And I will stick to it for sure if i can’t the SF build at the beginning.
Also those 12k health as a guy dressed in heavy armor looks soooooo weird to me, but i guess i just have to take this as it is.
Regarding the group, I am playing with a friend support Elementalist (Some sort of heal-support build).
Others we have to find first (I was thinking about a messmer – condition removal and maybe a warrior)
malicea,
thank you a lot – this clears a lot of my questions.
I will study trough Brazils chanel for the builds and other usefull information.
like I’ve said, thank you a lot !
malicea,
Thank you for your precise answer!
This new brazil hammer spec looks very interesting and solid.
The only thing i can’t get – is this sympol created by the hammers third attack really that powerfull? Wouldnt a sword-focus do better with the blinds + attack speed
(more burning )
But for sure you made me fear less the berzerker armor (=
I guess youre talking about the december patch.
But this one is so far away that it makes me still thinking of some gear ill gona buy right after i hit 80.
I have 60g in my pocket and i plan to equip myself full with orange gear right after I have the level cap.
But the problem is I have no idea what gear to buy and which runes to put in – because I am not shure about the build I will run.
One of my main problems is the health of our class – are we really fit to run frcatals with 14k hp ?
If the stories are true – the mobs hit for about 20k in higher level fractals.
I just cant make my mind get all those new things of the game.
Hello to everyone of you guys !
I am very new to GW2 and especially to the guardian class.
Hitting 70 yesterday i began to ask myself about the nearest future of my charr.
The thing is, I more interested in pve (fractals and dungeons) + maby WvW (only in big groups).
So the point is that i need a good PvE build for fractals (playing with some friends – so we are planning to farm those).
My main role would be a tanking dps mainly. Though I dont have all the understanding of the gae right now. And I may be totally wrong about the role I should take. (I was tanking almos all the time in other MMO’s)
So guys, first of all – I need your help with some great builds for fractal farming
(a support elementalist will be in the party for sure) – the weapons and equipment. (Not sure if I will be able to run full zerker – may not be skilled enough + need to do some tanky role – love shield – but its not good for pve as I read already)
I did some nooby theorycrafting and thought of something like this – This build may look very funny to ya, but thats okay – I would love to hear what you guys think about it.
It is focused on 1 hand sword + focus (scepter +shield or torch in ranged fights) and bases on critical stikes + burning ( spirit weapon to aply burning and increasse the damage)
And we all know that 1h sword works just great with burning thanks to the third tripple attack.
also i tried to hold on 15-16k health + a normal amount of toughness (not sure if 2.5r is enough)
Waiting for your replies ! Thank you !