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T1 EU Vizunah/Desolation/Elona 10/05/13

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Let me come back to why “I feared that this happens”: I think Elona is winning the current match because it is a 1 vs 1 with spectators and not a 1 vs 1 vs 1.
This is good for Elona as it allows Elona to counter Vizu’s night advantage with Elona’s day advantage.

In a normal 1 vs 1 vs 1 like we had it February, this balance is less given.
Vizu still has night-advantage as all others sleeping, but Elona has a reduced day advantage as Deso (or any other third) is awake as well, i.e. while Vizu is capping anything in the night unopposed, the other two have to fight each other instead of being able to cap everything back.

So I feared that this happens because it may let Deso drop out of T1, replacing Deso maybe with someone Elona has to fight during the day, destroying the balance that currently favours Elona.

You need to refresh a little. There is no more Nightcapping from Vizu. Your Multimap Raid is twice than ours.

It’s not a reproach, but you make points at night, look at the matchup:

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/

And now, we rarelly have queues, even on EB

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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Well, now if you’re not in a famous WvW guild, you’re only a useless PU who don’t care of WvW and come only for Karma.
Hope it’s a Troll, Phoebe. Really…….

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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Vizunah/Desolation/Seafarer (2.03-???) T1 EU

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I just love guys who consider their personal experience as an undeniable truth for the entire server.

I love duels, “lol go Spvp”, i know, but i prefer WvW. I just seek for fair fights, thats how i like to play.

And if i had trust my personal experience, i would say that the players from SFR and Deso are all cowards who can’t even win a regular fight , they flee until they are in superior number.
Is it true ? No, because that is a PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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Yes, Viz always have a 60+ blob on all the map, they always hide in their towers, they never fight, etc.. ( oh, it’s false? But who cares? )
Seem that the infinite loop of whines will never end…

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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This thread has always been a gathering of the biggest trolls, but at least a few of them were funny.

Now, this thread is just a bunch of insults.
Now, this thread just disgust me.

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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I have a suggestion, the WvW is no more fun for me, why not remove all the siege weapons, the buildings, the hills and the rifts ? Then we could have real fights !

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Guys, you really think that’s enough to take Valley, seriously?

It was “just4fun”, but ther is a little diffrence in this picture between Vizunah and SFR. You guys do the same at 6am in the morning where are like nobody is online. We do it at 2pm when ther are some lootbags running around

I know ^^, but honestly, if we didn’t called our Multimap, you would have won.
A “just4fun” opération can be very profitable sometimes

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Guys, you really think that’s enough to take Valley, seriously?

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Well, looks like we should play WvW only between 14 and 16 pm … Oh no wait! It’s afternoon nap capping!

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seriously everywhere i go i counter SFR zerg of 40+. You guys are like ants no joke. The only reason why you guys are winning because of sheer numbers nothing more. Desolation has the best quality pvp players in EU server. When it comes down to small skirmishers (5-10 ppl), Deso wins 90% of the times. If we have half of SFR, we will be spawn camping both SFR and Viz at the same time. Until we get numbers we will lose the score but not the war.

Sure, if Deso wins, it is because they are the best, but if they lose it’s because they are less numerous.
Did you said sore loser?

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I wonder if following is correct assessment (quoting ashlenty.9358 from closed thread):

RAID guild off around 12pm-1am, so Multimapswitch is on. When a BL is in peace there is only scouts (~5) while all the others are in an BL at war. When the peace is broke, the multimapswitch …switch to restore the peace. :p
Basicaly, example: RBL 5ppl, BBL 5ppl, GBL 5ppl, CBE 35ppl.

Because if it is, issue is nonexistent. In its current formulation at least.

Have you seen the numbers in EB alone that both Deso and Elona field every day at that hour?

35 people would never be able to even hold their part of EB, never mind if they had to switch all over the 4 maps.

Also: you seriously believe you can cap at 600+ with 5 people per map? At that score level, you need more than 5 scouts per map just to cover all the keeps and towers you hold. That’s before considering you need at least a 5-men group roaming in every BL to recap supply camps that lone enemy stragglers could get.

A more realistic assessment would go something like:

40 people in EB at all times to not lose most of the map
10 scouts + 5-men roaming group recapping camps in every BL
A zerg of 30 hopping from map to map

We’re at 115 players already, and even with such a setup, you can hold over 500 points only until BOTH enemy servers are only present in EB + a maximum of a 20-men group in one BL. As soon as either of the two opponents starts fielding 25-30 men zergs you’ve just tied your main multimap zerg in one place, meaning you’re now vulnerable to losing the two whole other bl maps in minutes unless lots more players come online.

You need 200, not 20, to do what Vizunah does. It’s simple math.

Well, this is a lot of suppositions. But don’t try offensive action at night, it’s cool, for sure a 50 players zerg will come and crush you ( even if i’ve rarely seen a bus of 50 players on vizunah, even on prime time)

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@ Qwixx : This is a week from November ? :/

Vizunah Night crew (2am-6am) is about 50 players everynight. Maybe more this week as their Alliance made a special operation to motivate the whole server. It somehow consisted of playing more than they usually do.

From what i know beeing with them on TS several weeks, most of them are university student(30%) and 50% are jobless( Its quite hard in France atm tbh).

Most of them are on the community TS every night wich is very well organised. They have scout in any towers/keep the whole night (Seriously i hope they have fun tho sometimes i feel sad for them…) and scream on Ts if something is coming. Then the massive night zerg portal bomb and defend their T3 with sieges.

This is how it works for month and it works very well.

True Story.

True Story…. I guess you are on our Server on EB every nights also.
kitten Clipping, I always thought that we were 10 with the lead instead of 50. I guess that the inferiority buff is a false too.

Hwestdinen (Ranger 80)
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