Guild Wars 2

fakeblood.2576:

I can’t stress this enough but blink @ 1200 range is your best friend then stealth or stealth then blink at that point you have the time to heal then burst down the theif .. Thief is just as squishy as you if not more so don’t be afraid to attack if your on the run The whole time then you die

Thing about running is it doesn’t kill anyone and second if i am healing so can they…

Osicat.4139:

Thing is Jayster, if you realy want a thief proof build, a build who fit current pvp meta in terms of survival and dmg then you look at PU 20-20-30 builds. You specificly asked around the fact you was in a 20-20-0-0-30 shatter build. Problem is that in the contest pvp meta we see atm the pu mesmers are rather weak as point cappers. We both kill close to anything we run into and survive in 1vs x as pu.Still fact is pu 20-20-30 is a bad class for cap and keep points as the builds core is stealth.

The question for good theifs is harder in vids, alot due to as soon somone lose a duel vs a PU mesmer he is seen as a bad player. The build simply make players look bad.

I can for sure thay this. I play 20-20-30 both in duels, wvwvw and spvp, Im aroun 95-98% win rate vs thiefs in the spec in both wvwvw duels and unexpected fights. I duel alot.

Many duel servers banned PU builds even as they seen to effective.

I add 2 vids from the spec.

After first fight you see how it work vs a bs thief in a duel. The named thief destroyed alot of ppl in fights before. Tbh when defenses are up and a duelist its not realy anything he can do. I can outsurvive, outmobile and out dmg him

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aL7wd_cJkxY

Second fight is not specifly a Thief vid. Instead its coop wih a thief but as you asked for good mesmer kill rate compared to thiefs here you go.

http://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=up56e1v2#/watch?v=VpqP_AHb7p8

/Osicat

Osicat if you are a 20-20-30 build how are you leaving a clone behind when u dodge? that is a duel trait….?

Please show me some videos…of good thieves in them and you doing these things you are talking about…
Also if the mesmer was soo good at pvp why does no one and I mean no one play them in pvp. I was on yesterday for almost 8 hours and saw a total of 2 mesmers in EB….. stop trolling and post in another post I would rather find real solutions to the problem so i can play my mesmer happily, every other class is not nearly as fun in pve and I just don’t care for other classes play styles. Bring the mesmer some love.

Also I would also note there are several videos out with thieves who are doing 1 v 6 and they say in the video i will take down the mesmer first cause they are so squishy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcTKt47ixk at 14:44

No offense but the thieves you guys are showing me videos of are horrible. No thief should try to run at you and follow that by a cloak and dagger or heartseeker. They shadow step to you…that is how I know right away those thieves are horrible. Please show me some videos of good thieves in them. The things you guys are suggesting I appreciate but I have done them or tried to do them and they do not work. You say they are all about burst damage but I dodge there cloak and dagger and heart seeker they have 3 initiative left then get enough to do another cloak and dagger in 2 sec or they just heal then backstab followed by heartseeker quick and cloak and dagger then repeat. No thief attacks when u dodge, they throw dagger then cloak and dagger ( 5-8k there) then I evade heartseeker, evade death blossom, then they cloak and dagger followed by backstab and get 3 initiative and follow in with heartseeker or heal then backstab. which equalls 5-8k plus 5-8k plus 4k plus 5-8k = dead.. my hp is about 16k

I need help with mesmer pvp. As you can see in the screen shot I got destroyed by a thief, He opened up with an 8k hit followed by a 7k hit which I only have 16k hp. So I was dead in literally 1 sec. I got off 1 daze and my chaos storm where I thought he was refuging.
This happens all the time also, so it isn’t just this thief, all of them who don’t keyboard turn will take me down this fast. I will post my build but I have played with just about all the good builds out there and honestly there is not enough time to even react to make a viable build.
So my question is are they going to fix mesmer or should I just abandon my mesmer who I like to play the most and play a thief instead.
In wvw I only see like 4 classes, I assume cause they are the best ones for pvp: Thief (kills), warrior (kills), guardian (support), necro (fear/support).
I would ask what other mesmers are doing to kill thieves but I know I wont get an answer, I can see in wvw no one plays a mesmer, and if I do get a response is prolly from someone who plays a thief and doesn’t want it to get nerfed.

Build is:
staff and duel 1h sword
20/20/0/0/30
Dom: 6,4 (did this for the stack of vulnerabilities)
Duel: 3,10 (did this so when I use my block with swords I get 2 clones, most of the time)
Illusions: 1,5,11 (did this to try and get out damage fast and so I can pop my shatters as soon as I get hit by a thief to daze them, but it doesn’t seem to work or doesn’t work long enough to really do kitten to them)

I need help with mesmer pvp. As you can see in the screen shot I got destroyed by a thief, He opened up with an 8k hit followed by a 7k hit which I only have 16k hp. So I was dead in literally 1 sec. I got off 1 daze and my chaos storm where I thought he was refuging.
This happens all the time also, so it isn’t just this thief, all of them who don’t keyboard turn will take me down this fast. I will post my build but I have played with just about all the good builds out there and honestly there is not enough time to even react to make a viable build.
So my question is are they going to fix mesmer or should I just abandon my mesmer who I like to play the most and play a thief instead.
In wvw I only see like 4 classes, I assume cause they are the best ones for pvp: Thief (kills), warrior (kills), guardian (support), necro (fear/support).
I would ask what other mesmers are doing to kill thieves but I know I wont get an answer, I can see in wvw no one plays a mesmer, and if I do get a response is prolly from someone who plays a thief and doesn’t want it to get nerfed.

Build is:
staff and duel 1h sword
20/20/0/0/30
Dom: 6,4 (did this for the stack of vulnerabilities)
Duel: 3,10 (did this so when I use my block with swords I get 2 clones, most of the time)
Illusions: 1,5,11 (did this to try and get out damage fast and so I can pop my shatters as soon as I get hit by a thief to daze them, but it doesn’t seem to work or doesn’t work long enough to really do kitten to them)