Guild Wars 2

Dara Potocska.8196:

#TeamGildedHollow

Well done! I hope you guys had fun!

Thank you for your Support. If you’d Like to Visit I can show you the Entrance Also.

skgstan.9687:

World First Gilded Hallow. Like then a second Guild hall….I cant comprehend. bows down Teach us your ways. AND LOOK AT IT IT LOOKS AMAZING.

Pm me in game dude I’ll show you the entrance.

THE GOLD IS REAL. LOOK HOW PRETTY IT LOOKS.

Boom #3? I think so

Curo.2483:

I totally understand the whole argument behind everyone being expected to take the same hard path to greatness. However, there is one thing you guys have not taken into account: WvW is an ever-growing gamestyle. Here is what I mean:

In PvE, there is a set amount of difficulty, and people need to learn how to overcome it. Whether through trial and error, or through allies and guides, PvE challenges are defeated in standard fashion. But when it comes to WvW, you need to realize that it is always changing, and some players have had over a year to adapt to this environment. And now new players are expected to deal with this vast amount of experience? Come on! It’s one thing to learn that falling off cliffs will kill you, but when there are enemies with a year of experience that know 100 different ways to knock you off that cliff, that mountain is going to be MUCH harder to climb (and subsequently fall off).

We have so many serious players and guilds who make it their mission to stomp newbies. At least give the new players something that makes them feel not completely helpless.

We need to remember that GW2 is above all a casual MMO. It’s understandable that hardcore players would have an advantage, but we shouldn’t discourage casuals from enjoying the content just because someone else plays more than them. Downed state mastery, while maybe not the perfect idea, is definitely a step in the right direction. We need something for new players to look at and say “hey, they had me in mind when they made this, perhaps I will actually enjoy this activity.”

I think a lot of people in this thread got involved in WvW near the start, when everyone was on the same playing field. But now, that playing field is so well established that new players are going to end up feeling like they are on the bleachers, just watching, and occasionally getting hit in the face with a ball. You simply cannot think that anyone would willingly want to pit themselves up against such odds without some sort of helmet.

And here we have a whole new set of achievements obviously designed to encourage new WvW players, but we have no system to accommodate them. How is a new guy going to be able to take Stonemist when he can’t even jump out of his keep without dying from fall damage? Seriously. I know getting out of that red keep in EB can be a hassle. You want to get there ASAP so you don’t miss credit, and end up killing yourself because you are in such a rush. Then you end up missing the cap and you’re forced to ram your face on the wall for another 2 hours because your server can’t field enough people to take a decent shot at the castle.

Ok so maybe I’m taking this a little personally now, but seriously give the new guys some kind of training wheels. You can even remove those wheels once they hit a high enough rank.

And one final thought, another proposition. How about we have some sort of “elitist mastery” (although we won’t call it that) that handicaps a more experienced player in order to receive better rewards? If we’re going to do something like this for the newbs, we’ve got to throw the pros a bone as well!

Agreed, i have been following this post for a while now. I have a hard life, four small children, a job that barely gets us by. PvE was my out for a long time but it just did not fill some urges I have built up inside. When I first decided to try WvW out I did what everyone says, read posts, watch videos, spend gold (that I worked so hard for) on new gear. I practice, put so much effort in, and I see a post on something that could benefit everyone and agree with it. People hate on us “PvE noobs” but we are what drives new content and what helps progress the game. All we need is some more Wxp trait lines. Maybe one that gives WvW members a speed buff that switches to only underwater once you hit a certain rank.

Cameron.6450:

Jrown.2049:

You WvW elitist disgust me. What makes you a better person than the Pve community. These downed state ideas are amazing. They would give the non-wvw community a chance in a fight. “hey, i am wvw veteran, i want to be able to do 500% more dmg to tequatl and be immune to poison, yeee” You really think that would help you with Tequatl. DO you even know who Tequatl is! All im saying is Pve isnt easy, it takes time and dedication. I’ve put in so much work, and all I want is a chance. If only WvW gave me something meaningful like Fractals or the Living story. It is your hate towards Pve that is putting us down and not giving us a chance.

You do realise that you bemoan wvw players putting down pve players in a post that you started by saying we disgust you, right?

You also kind of made cynz’s argument for him. You said you’ve put so much work into pve and just want an advantage in wvw. Well, the entire point of the post you quoted was that while you were in pve getting phat lootz, we were in wvw getting rubbish lootz, but honing our skillz. If the idea of a pve boost for wvw’ers is so abhorrent to you, then what makes you think a wvw boost for pve’ers is a good idea?

I do not think you understand how hard it is to be a Pve player in WvW. The challenges we face every day to just fit in, to branch out of our community. I am not saying you should not buff WvW players in Pve I understand and can see how hard that must be to meet the standards, but instead of mocking this amazing idea, why not embrace it and possible implement a downed state buff for PvE also.

Cynz.9437:

honestly, those archives are not even that hard and can be collected while mindlessly running with commander

once pve’ers got their archives, they will leave anyway…ppl who stays in wvw don’t need guides nor any specific help… we all were new to wvw at some point, we didn’t get any privilegues… why should pve’ers get any? they already get most love from anet

if your suggestions would actually get implemented, ppl will just abuse them and pve’ers and uplvs will just have even less motivation to adapt to wvw

hey, i am wvw veteran, i want to be able to do 500% more dmg to tequatl and be immune to poison, yeee

You WvW elitist disgust me. What makes you a better person than the Pve community. These downed state ideas are amazing. They would give the non-wvw community a chance in a fight. “hey, i am wvw veteran, i want to be able to do 500% more dmg to tequatl and be immune to poison, yeee” You really think that would help you with Tequatl. DO you even know who Tequatl is! All im saying is Pve isnt easy, it takes time and dedication. I’ve put in so much work, and all I want is a chance. If only WvW gave me something meaningful like Fractals or the Living story. It is your hate towards Pve that is putting us down and not giving us a chance.

BOOOOOM LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE

Perfect show BP. I enjoy every second of our match up. The learning curve has been raised. We can all learn from your example. Making me see green. <3

Boom,

Not sure if any one has contacted you about the NSC yet, but its a meeting that happens every week where WvW guilds meet for a server wide talk to see what BL guilds will be focusing/ a little break down of our guilds so we all understand each other alittle better. If you and Black Crescent (BC) are interested contact Ocularis via ingame mail. Thanks NSP PRIDE

Vistal.2906:

anthsss.1564:

Rashagal.5867:

anthsss.1564:

Rashagal.5867:

As for coattails, like I’ve already mentioned, in a 3 way battle double teaming will happen. Like Rob said, its rare that a cyclical karma train happens, because CO’s see easy points, and they would be irresponsible not to take advantage of them.

I don’t even want to prove you wrong because this is exactly what I wanted. Acceptance and admittance of what has been done.

My rebuttal is, it would be irresponsible not to take advantage of the easy points, but it is even more irresponsible to take advantage of the easy points that only get you to 2nd place, and allow another server to take the win.

It is also irresponsible not to take advantage of the attacking server by hitting them when they are preoccupied with their attack, it then keeps the fight more interesting, and bases the matchups more on skill and coordination rather than taking advantage of a server that has to defend themselves on two fronts and turning it into PvD.

The reason why people from NSP say that AR is unskilled is because in the past few weeks, we have only seen AR be the server that spreads the standings. They secure 2nd, allow 1st to rocket to the top, and have 3rd drop way down. Right now we are at a 20k difference between servers because of AR’s irresponsiblity. If AR actually attacked BP then they may have been in 1st because it wasn’t a huge point spread, but like I keep saying, AR is only comfortable coming in 2nd.

NSP has outplayed AR by actually fighting for 1st place, we didn’t succeed, but we sure kept it tight for as long as we could. AR secured 2nd and then went nowhere from there. That is how NSP outplayed AR this week, we actually put forth our own effort, an effort that was effective enough to have BP come at us with all that they had in order to put us down.

AR’s irresponsibility? Huge point spread? Allowing 1st to rocket to the top and have 3rd drop way down?

I’m sorry. Are you high? I defy you to give a single example of a closer matchup in the entire NA tier system right now. Better yet, I outright call you out to prove there has been a closer matchup than these three servers regardless of NA or EU tiers for the past 4 weeks.

Go ahead. I’ll even give you the website that records all the stats for this stuff:

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#history

Find a single match up there that was closer than AR/BP/NSP for the past 4 weeks. Those are all the scores for the matches. I’m telling you to back up your claims with facts and numbers instead of talking out of your kitten for once. Find a single match that has been closer, or more competitive, or more evenly matched.

Look at the overall rank points even. NSP and AR have gone up in rank every week in this match up, while BP has gone down. The overall point difference between 1st and 3rd in our tier is less than 70 points.

Don’t think that you can argue to me about point spreads and blame AR for not trying, kid. You’re complaining about a 20k point spread? (overall spread is actually 40k, but I guess I shouldn’t be counting on you to do your math correctly at this point)

Tier 8 has to deal with a 260k point spread. Tier 1 has to deal with a 80k point spread. Hell, the closest tier to us has a 50k point spread. The numbers are on my side.

Stop digging, troll. You aren’t going to win this discussion.

20k point spread between each server means a 40k point spread, same statement just different wording, and before yesterday it was what a total spread of 12k points? The difference between first and second was a 2k point spread. That is close, 20k is a whole day worth of points and AR essentially screwed themselves from getting a very very highly obtainable 1st and they screwed NSP from getting a 2nd. This matchup could have gone literally any way if AR weren’t irresponsible in the way they chose who to attack in the past 2 days, but now it’s just the same as every week because you were content with only coming in 2nd place.

I still stand by my statement that NSP outplayed AR, we kept it closer than you have ever been able to, and the only reason why it was opened up is because of the irresponsibility of AR in attacking NSP to secure a 2nd place “victory” for themselves.

AGAIN .. you cant claim to outplay someone and not be wining. Its the dumbest statement of the year. AR doesn’t really care if BP wins. SERIOUS. We pound NSP because of a certain guild. I don’t know why you are so hung up on AR being in 2nd place. It doesn’t matter if we are in 1st . We where in first 3 weeks in a row until Thursday night and BP brings out the Big night crew and there nothing we can do with NO night crew to support it. All you are doing is making crap up to troll without knowing exactly whats happening,

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