Guild Wars 2

Uruz Six.6594:

Kaiza.4618:

I get it that ANet needs to make some cash on Gem sales, I really do but if the common player like myself or a new player is unable to even buy bag or bank slots for a reasonable value with what he/she earns, this game is going to die a quick death Imo.

I’ve only been playing the game solid for a month or so myself. Thanks to the high rate of gold for gems, a couple days back I was able to cash in 100 gems and score a full Tier 1 cultural set for my main. Now he’s rocking the Sylvari pimp coat. If the rate stays high today, I’ll cash in another 100 gems so I can shore up the crafting materials he’ll need to make his level 40 gear. I thank everyone glutting the market with their excess gold, its coming in handy for some of us up and coming crafters.

And new players having to spend cash for bank and alt slots is a bad thing? We already paid $40 plus to get in the door, and its not like we’re already paying $15 a month. Its a cash shop, not a grind shop.

I was under the impression it wasnt supposed to be a cash shop to begin with. All this does now is give the F2P haters more fuel for their fire, and I can no longer argue against them.

Astraea.6075:

Having read some of the responses here I’m a bit puzzled. We have someone who has been farming COF for the past 2 months making up to 5.5 g/hour complaining about the exchange rate being slightly over 3g/100 gems. What have you been spending your gold on?

I don’t make anywhere near that sort of gold/hour, yet I have a small supply of gems and a couple hundred gold in reserve that I can call on, despite my tendency to make impulse purchases.

I bought my bank tabs when they were on sale. I got bag slots for my War and Guard as well on sale. I made a Volcanus for my War. Bought dyes for multiple toons. Leveled crafting. Made boxes for several of my toons and some friends and guildies. 18 slots not 20s. Donated to my guild for Events and WvW fund cause my guild is very active in that area even though I cant participate due to my old PC cant handle Zergs.

Ya know.. I Play the F’n game. Please tell me more about how Im crying, it amuses me.

@geotherma Id love to know what you can farm solo that makes 5g an hour. Lodestones are the only thing I can think of and I dont know of good locations for many.

@LFK I think you are overstating the amount of people with a built up level of wealth. Gold isnt exactly easy to come by in this game and there have always been money sinks even before the Gem explosion happened. Ectos used to cost 35s+ when I started playing in Dec. Crafting is a money sink for most professions.

People are just working alot harder to keep up I believe as I have been, more than theres just a ton of rich players driving the economy forward. I made this thread in order to voice concerns about people hitting the wall and New players getting shafted all together trying to catch up.

Fully optimized with as little downtime as possible I can make 5.5G an hr doing CoF before selling any drops. Ive gone days where I dont get an exotic out of there in 10 hrs because of DR affecting the chests. This takes a dedicated 5 man that knows what its doing to get that kind of cash, LFGin it sucks 90% of the time. AFAIK CoF is the best money in the game outside of TP Manipulation and im not fond of playin the auction house 24/7.

Anyways… Im busting my butt to keep up and from looking at the popularity of CoF farming, many others are too since its the only real viable way to make cash in my experience. If Gem prices and T6 Mat prices continue to inflate, were gonna have a real problem on our hands.

Astraea.6075:

As someone who buys the bulk of their gems with gold rather than cash, I can understand why someone might balk at the rising gold -> gem exchange rate, especially when it spikes upwards in response to increasing demand when new goodies are offered in the gem store.

The strategy I employ to counteract these spikes is to exchange gold into gems on a regular basis, regardless of whether there is anything I currently wish to purchase or not (in my case, I buy 100 gems with gold every day that I’m able to play for a reasonable length of time, but obviously you may wish to use different amounts/criteria based on your circumstances).

Over time, this has led me to build up a stock of gems that I can spend whenever I desire something without worrying too much about what is happening to the exchange rate in the short-term. It also gives me a rough target for a minimum amount of gold I want to make while playing each day.

I wish I had thought of this tactic and seen this coming a couple months ago. Ive been farming CoF hard for the last 2 months and my current group is burnt out as much as I am but the need for cash is ever increasing with T6 mats getting more and more expensive and ectos dropping in price along with rares. I can only imagine when its 5g per 100gems, which by the looks of things wont be too far in the future at this rate.

Ursan.7846:

Kaiza.4618:

Why would anyone transfer Gems -> Gold when its half the value?

I don’t understand. What do you mean half the value. The values of Gems/Gold are tied together by the Exchange rate.

Kaiza.4618:

this game is going to die a quick death Imo.

Ah. The “I don’t like this specific aspect of the game, so I predict this specific aspect of the game will kill the game” argument.

Very silly when you consider this aspect of the game is quite benign. Quitting the game because you can’t purchase additional bank-slots with in-game gold, when most (all?) other games don’t have the option of using in-game gold to purchase microtransaction items in the first place? I mean, go ahead I guess. But eh. Very silly.

I say half the value cause its typically twice as much G for 100 Gems as you would get back trading 100 gems for G.

Also I realize the “Silliness” of what I proclaim as potential Death of the game but think of it this way. People that play MMOs typically like to progress within the game. Whether that be thru gear, stats, wealth, looks, what have you, there is a level of progression. Expanding on things like acquiring more inventory, Which no matter what mmo you are playing is ALWAYS a Good thing, IS Progression. Im sure Im not the only one to see it as such.

So when leveling a char to 80 traditionally, not crafting it up, I made a total of 8g. I was happy to buy an extra bag slot for him as a Perk for hitting 80, knowing i need room for additional gathering supplies, tokens, even extra gear cause im somewhat of a “Always be prepared” kinda guy, especially on a guardian that can make use of so many stats. 8G now gets you pretty much Squat. Yes I know its not “Needed” and thats the fallback answer whenever anyone brings something along the lines I have. Neither are Dyes, but that doesnt stop Abyss and Celestial for selling for almost 20g each does it. Vanity, and yes like I said Progression are 2 of the key things in this game.

Why would anyone transfer Gems → Gold when its half the value? Please fill me in if Im missing some major detail here but the system seems broken. I get it that ANet needs to make some cash on Gem sales, I really do but if the common player like myself or a new player is unable to even buy bag or bank slots for a reasonable value with what he/she earns, this game is going to die a quick death Imo.

And being player regulated has led to where we are now with the current prices climbing still. Its not going to stop.

When I started playing in Dec, Gems were 1.80g per 100. I saw this as a reasonable investment to expanding my character and purchasing things I wanted as a player with limited finances IRL. I am unable to buy gems with $$ so earning them with gold in game was a welcome sight and something that kept me invested in the game.

Now that Gems are over 3.18g per 100 it is out of hand. I can no longer tell people on other forums discussing this game that it doesnt take a real money investment to get access to things like extra bank and bag slots if you are just joining the game today. Working your kitten off to be able to afford the nice things in this game has become extraordinarily difficult, at least for me and has caused major burnout on my end trying to keep up.

It is my belief that ANet needs to step in and put a definitive, solid price on Gems and end this constant inflation that will drive people away from the game that cant keep up with the unending pursuit of gold to feed the system.