Guild Wars 2

Hi Faux, dropped by here since you pointed me this way. I’ve been adapting your RRR built into my dungeon play. After reading this entire thread I kinda have an idea what this is all about.

Good thing is, to switch to your BTR built I dont have to do too much to my equipmment which is apo/settler set and runes. (I’ve placed 2/2/2, dwayna, water and monk runes) for all the regen and boon duration. I use:
-> Healing Springs
-> Wild Signet
-> FireTrap (gotta love the big condition dmg numbers) or Hunt Signet (when i need to kite)
-> frost spirit (take one for the team)
-> Elite : Spirit of nature (once again, take one for the team) / Rampage as 1

Loadout is Axe/Torch (When i need to be in your face situations, fire and bleed dot FTW) and Shortbow (situations when I cant melee, i will position myself accordingly).

Im not able to access gw2 now, but running simulations and numbers in my head, I probably adapt (once again) for my style. A very very interesting thing is, I didnt know by using a traited shout, I can do away with healing spring (sorry team) and Signet of hunt. Too bad only my pet gets the protection.

And as Grayback.7148 mentioned:
- +20% protection duration (from runes of earth)
- 25% to gain 4s protection when hit (from runes of earth)
- companions defense for the 2s protection
- natures protection for another 5s protection

I feel instead of a long duration protection with a cooldown of 60secs, why dont I use traits that offer protection with a CD of only 30? Companion defence isnt long, but if coupled with other runes and traits I think I can get a pretty lengthy duration, with a small boost to duration on demand when i dodge…

Further more, the pet I use are devourers, so I think guard makes them a stationary turret.. no press of f3 and whatnot….

The only question I have in mind is, regeneration duration i get from shouts is it fixed at 10seconds? or does the duration improve with my runes?

And judging @ how tanky Rangers can be with this build, maybe I can swap to rampagers armor for even more DPS?

So to sum it up for our line of defence…
Protection (cooldown of 30seconds)
Troll uguent
Dodge rolls
if all else fails…. RUN (Swiftness)….

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Well this is a blast from the past. I think you can do better than this now though. My BTR build (which I still run) allows for similar healing with much higher defence, permaswiftness, permaregen, and like half uptime of protection during fights. I would recommend it over this because many of these buffs extend to group as well as permaprotecting you pet.

Thanks for the heads up… will check it out

Im currently running a modified build based on yours to suit my taste… its working nicely..

What about dungeoning?

Would like to ask how is this build in dungeons?

I’ve recently hit 80 and began to run some dungeongs… so my experience is still pretty little… Currently running with Apothecary’s set… Im also thinking about rampager’s gear.

Most people here would agree with running with berzerker’s gear for dungeons. Reason why im looking at other sets now is….
1) Healing power does nuts for me, be it regen, healing springs, heal as one bla bla… no matter how much heal i put out im just gonna get hit hard.
2) I think toughness is …. okkkaaayyy…. but as rangers base health is low, i probably should have invested in vit gear instead.
3) Condition damage so far, is pretty

So instead of berzerker’s gear, im looking at rampager’s gear. How nice if i could hit hard, crit high, and still do solid bleeds. Oh I use shortbow in dungeons (longbows wun cut it as i dont really stand that far out) and greatswords (For AOE situations, another reason to go rampagers)…

I’ve tried swapping out stuff a bit here and there for just 1 equipement. Like for example. Apothecary’s SB vs Berzerker’s SB damage and bleeds for that 3 seconds.(Im throwing numbers here, cant exactly remember)

(122dmg) (125dmg)
(247bleed) (224bleed).

So although berzerker’s gear does increase my direct damage, my bleeds take quite a hit. So right now, im prepare to chuck away healing power as im really really not impressed and disappointed with that stat… toughness wise im still debating…

Belzebu.3912:

Martial Mastery reduces the recharge time of abilities that have a recharge time.
So … no.

Bleah…. I tot even auto attacks have a recharge time too? Except for shortbows…

If it works for Great sword, that wouldbe great? means more evades in a shorter time frame?

Erm…. hello?………

Hmm after researching out more here and there… I prolly will use this build… Its basically zerker with a bit of party support.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNBlYDbkoKyOxyqi1OQ0UoJzzUkIG9eg+W1+C85B-jwxAYLBZiCAVIyJvioxWcLiGrqkIq2LQEVDA-e

Im convinced that conditions in dungeons is limited… so hence the change of idea… but of course, i might change again as i go along my way to 80…

And throughout all these tweaking, im pretty tempted to create a guardian toon… I’ve always been a tank in MMOs… I wanted to take a break from being a tank but… somehow Im rather drawn to it over @ GW2 :p hahahaha

Actually… I dont understand why would condition dmg be sucky in a dungeon?

And if I’m going for shortbow for bleeds and sun spirit for burns, shouldnt I be wearing condition dmg gear?

Oh, for those traits that say 20% faster weapon skill recharge… does it mean the auto attack is faster too? means my short bow can shoot faster? apply more bleed?

Edit: I’ve just started playing around with the build editor.. and learning armor sets… If i go for condition dmg… Why people are recommending Rabid sets? Why not carrion or dire… im actually looking at Dire sets as it has condition dmg and survivalbility…

Oh my… very informative… hmm i need time to digest all da post… Thanks everyone.. and do keep them coming so i can explore my options more…

So signet wise, just keep the regeneration signet? toughness is …. not worth a slot? the rest as spirits?

Ision.3207:

Kedira, you’re probably going to get ripped for your post —- but try hard to ignore the morons. There is always a segment of gamers that take games far too seriously and as a result forget that others play games merely to play games. Also, you’re going to hear that Rangers are garbage in Dungeons blah blah, you also need to ignore that as well, as it’s simply untrue.

I will try and come-up with a build for you and post it later. Since my own build would not fill any of what your asking for in the slightest (as I am one of those that takes gaming a bit too seriously – but hopefully not to the total crazy no-lifer level – lol).

Best of luck.

PS: for what your looking for in a toon, forget Mesmer – it’s Ranger or Guardian for you.

LOL!!! Somehow ur post crack me up! Yea i knew the flak Im going to take so im prepared. Know why? Coz I used to be like those hardcore gamer, till i lost whats so important to me in life… that I shouldnt take games so seriously. If you ever played Lord Of The Rings Online, Im kitten good with my Warden back then… its the hardest class in game… thats how hardcore… but thats the past now…

And yes please do help me out here with ya special build Thanks a lot man.

Aww and i tot mesmers are very cool!!! Ranger or guardian… I love being a tank in previous MMO :p looks like even a complete stranger knows my style :p

Okay this might be lengthy but I believe its important to give a bit of introduction to my questions. Also will write out my ideas out loud, so correct me if possible, dont wanna come across as someone who wants to be spoon fed.

As age catches up, and work and life becomes more stress and hectic, I would like to just wind down for the day and enjoy my game. I love pets in game so I dun really wanna use another class even though… quite a lot of complains call that Ranger sucks. I’ve just started 2 or 3 weeks ago, playing a bit by bit. Im currently a level 62 Ranger with only PvE SOLO experience (not even dungeons). I actually first started out as an engineer and, i strongly believe its user issue, I totally sucked @ it. The number of times I died as a lvl 15 engineer is more than my level 62 Ranger :p…
So can imagine how happy I felt when used my Ranger and I didn’t die as often.

Now, I would like to have a easy time playing a Ranger and yet be at least of some use in a group (dungeon??? ) setting. I know of course the more effort you put in, the better the class plays. So I would let to share my thoughts and let me know what can be tweaked and clear up some confusion for me

Throughout my leveling time I’ve tried various weapon combinations. Axe/WH, Sword/WH, GS, LB and SB… Currently my direction till end game and beyond should be mainly SB (flanking for bleeds) and secondary Sword/Torch (sword for DPS and torch for awesome burning). My secondary might change to Great sword as I do like that weapon very much… just that DPS is really lacking on it. So I mostly going to for condition build. But thing is, if everyone in the group applies conditions, max stack of 25 would make my build pretty… meh right?

Pets wise I mostly using would be devourers and drakes.

Now being lazy as I am, I would like to run with full signets… to minimize on skills :p haha… But here are my questions.
But if I were to activate signets, the passive ability will disappear during the entire CD of the signet?
I do like the active effects signets, so should i get em traited?
I find most signets are useful, cant imagine my life without them. Signet for toughness, signet for regen, for speed, for condition removal. But if i have to use only 2, which one should I keep?
And to add on, is signet of stone really useful for the toughness?

And in group play, I probably go full spirits for party buff. But I heard that it only buffs up to 5 players max, and if my pet is included, means one of the party members will not recieve the spirits buff?
As with signets, which spirit are really recommneded in group play? Frost seems to be pretty straight forward 10% dps for everyone… Stone only have 3secs protection for every 10 sec… is that even useful? Storm spirit can provide AOE dmg right?

Traits wise, this is where it gets REALLY REALLY headache.
If im going to activate signets and make them effective, I need to be traited in Marksmanship which doesnt really serve my build well… maybe for the condtion duration??
So i think its gonna mainly be Wildness survival and Nature Magic… But in the grand scheme of things, when i hit end game, those stats boost from traits dont really matter much right? which also means I dont really have to invest in Beastmastery to make my pet strong (I mean they will be stronger if i invest, but maybe those points are better serve elsewhere?)
Which I think i can also play a crit/condition build as I think there’s a trait that causes bleed whenever I crit or something…

Im not sure if this is normal, but im able to solo quite a few champion mobs by myself. Not sure if i can learn to be a good teamplayer that way. Usually my devourer tanks, i stand a bit further back and keep applying bleeds, moving in melee range to plant healing springs, dodge when i have to, change pet if i have to. I think thats how dungeon works?

I think that should be all I have to ask, im sure I’ve missed other questions but thats all I can think off anyway. Thank you all for reading and hope you guys can advise me accordingly?

P.S. If all else fails, how do you guys think a mesmer would work for me? :p

Im gonna hitch on this thread and ask…

So which class is easily casually played? All in a hard days work, I just wanna login and have fun and not stress myself over again playing a game (I can already expect some nasty responses over that line… But just humor me all right?). Seems ranger is playable casually, but to be optimal you have to work kitten this class?

Ohh what?! oh… yea… when u summon a spirit u get to use its skills… hmm…

In the grand scheme of things… is signet of stone useful… it buffs toughness… u take less dmg but how much lesser are you exactly avoiding? Worth a skill slot?

Im playing and swapping around these group of skills and honestly, i cant make up my mind…

The 3 spirits…
All the signets except hunt (The one that adds 25% run speed, except when im sure to do be just doing travelling).
Quickening Zephyr…

Okkkkaaayyyy… LOL i just take it that its working :p

Btw, I dont understand why people are saying taking Storm Spirit has DPS increase? All it buffs is swiftness… confused

As of above… my damage seem to stay the same be it Frost Spirit out or not…

I might as well stick to sun spirit in this case?