Guild Wars 2

Aralon.7501:

Huuuge DE bot zerg just took QL. Really….. More players can confirm this. Why? You are far ahead of the other two servers, just sad.

Dude..
That not even our final form

Aralon.7501:

Huuuge DE bot zerg just took QL. Really….. More players can confirm this. Why? You are far ahead of the other two servers, just sad.

Dude..
That not even our final form

SintLucifer.4206:

So glad when this battle is over. DE fights with zero honour.
Even 1vs1 they have zero honour and need there friends to help the out.
And about the pet thing above. You did the same with elementist (even more worse).
So DE have fun in the next tier because you allready have Tier 1 mentality.

every server has them, but thanks for your thoughtfull comment!
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-17644412/6268574_700b.jpg.html

ääh guys? wrong forum ?
no one that reads this thread or posts in it can stop the cheating.
Ofc there is cheating on every server, hacking and glitching aswell.
but since non of the borderlands are completly one colored it prolly 1 out of 1000 using or absuing glitches etc. (on EVERY server not just dz/fs/uw).
just reporte them and everyone is happy no one likes cheaters anyway.

Xerion.8014:

Dropper.9176:

Oh and btw. FSP was forenoon/Day capping with nearly no defense on Dzag. Side , but we didnt complaining and stop putting defensive siege / upgrading, also we knew the Keeps /Towers would have been turned into wood when we came back in the evening.

Again, this Thread is mostly for People who wallow in self-pity.

You know what the big difference is with Dzag and FSP?

We (FSP) do not use Cheats.
I’d rather die with honor, than win by cheating.

nice one
pls dont feed the trolls

TryGoogleThis.9570:

I´m a FS player and at times commander, first reset with DZ was intense and we were outnumbered and DZ was running very good tactics and managed to slow us down on UW bl before moving onto our own afterward. I was looking forward to a hard week, with respect.

But as week went i must say i lost anything for your server, Nightcapping is a very vaild tactic and way of getting points, even with your huge numbers.

…….

DZ has some really good commanders, I must admit.

This is just my personal option, i would like to avoid any more of this dirt throwing.

Hope everyone had a good New Year- Balutrik, MA.

Finally someone putting some thought in his post =). I appreciate it.

You mentioned that your server has a lot of work to do. So MAYBE consider that:

You have to get used to player using a portal AND even more important start using it urself (maybe than your server notices that the portal doesnt provide culling and isnt THAT imba, but that beside.).
Little example:
If your raid, consiting of 20 people, stands on a choke Point, let’s take a bridge for example and the choke point is HEAVLY under fire with aoe, arrow carts and what not.
On the other side of the choke point standin around 40 people aoe’ing the every loving f’ out of the bridge.
What are you going to do as a Commander?
Sending 20 people into the chainsaw of aoe ?? or maybe, just maybe, get with a portal to the other side and avoid the whole aoe massacre and get atleast a small chance of victory?

The Portal provides you with way more options for your raid in various sittuations, not just face on in to the enemy, but your server keeps mocking about it not seeing the potential.

We dont use portals cause we want to have a unfair advantage(what it actually isnt but i cant convince anyone anyway), but in 1vs3 sittuation you cant just blinbly run into your enemy. badly laid mesmer portals can even be a death trap for everyone going through, you dont even need to see the enemy(huh? notice something?) just aoe the entrance.

If your server keeps accusing the portal for loss of a battle than you might work with people that dont want to improve rather than just search the fault somewhere else. Some peopele probably forget that portals have been around since start and there for succefully defended. Other Servers handle portals with no problem but on DZ/FS/UW for some reason EVERYTHING is culling.

for the nightcapping part:
as far as i see it (and im not online at night, so i might be wrong) it isnt really a stuctured force we plan to send in at night to capture everthing, we just have a lot of people online a night, enough to dominate.

Legno.6548:

Learn to play u are putting the mechanics of a portal bombing in such a naive way that Im disgusted, cause u pretend we all are enough stupid to trust what u have said… Cmon man the portal was never used like u said.
Usually, while the entire zerg is behind a wall, inside a keep or down an hill, a single mesmer is used to run toward the target zone where to place the portal exit, under the effect of veil or under mass invisibility, at least a skilled and an honest mesmer will admit that this is how the things must be done, now pls stop with the apologies of the mesmer’s portal: it’s a broken and abused mechanics, but still a viable one, and until the culling factor will be fixed the portal bomb will be a great tactic… A tactic counterable by a coordinated zerg, but still a good way to achieve the victory, no complain about this..

okok i admit the portal is like the most abusing thing since spawncamping. i still CANT understand how some raid groups still are be able to manage to defend a portal, but there prolly abuse some kind of other glitch / bug / hack!!! am I right guys ?? huh?
the portal and everyone that uses it, is responable for the downfall of Morality and honor in gw2 and rl! Anet put the skill in just to f’ people up like no tomorrow!
YEAH folks you heard it here first!

Edeor.9720:

LearnToPlay.1845:

1 last thing to the portal / culling problem.

If anyone that actually believes that using mesmer portals is so strong because of the culling I would like to invite you to research what culling is and how it functions.

Fact is: The mesmer portal has a range of 6000 (measured on a spell of 1200range) and 6000 range is not enough to force the rendering of the players again, know as culling.

This is not a fact and is not true. When you use portal the server have to send information to the clients, just like the thief’s stealth (and is known that stealth is affected by the culling issue).

LearnToPlay.1845:

Culling in general shouldnt be clarified a unfair since both sides have to deal with it at the exact same sittuation. Ofc no one likes getting killed without knowing what hit him but allways rember the opponent didnt know how many they killed either.

Incorrect, when you use portal redux you know what you are doing, but the people outside the wall no, so while u can spam AoE (enemies are scattered), your foes are just blind.

okok im not sure if we have a argument here or if your trolling, so i just throw some quick answers

If your not trolling:

to 1.)
IF I want to lay a portal i NEED to see the enemy raid, to know where to put it.
-> IF I see the enemy raid, the enemy raid can see me (and there for my raid ) aswell
-> and IF I now put a portal to close the gap between those both raids, than culling wont occur, because everything is allready rendert and 20 people going 6000 range wont be enough to force the culling issue.

to 2.)
using a portal just villi nilli, puting it f’ing somewhere will just result in a AOE hurricane on the entrance, witch will get everybody killed, or highly wounded, that comes outside. unless you want to tell me that the enormous data to render a portal also causes culling on the portal itself.

If your trolling:

1/10 on the troll scale for making me responde

1 last thing to the portal / culling problem.

If anyone that actually believes that using mesmer portals is so strong because of the culling I would like to invite you to research what culling is and how it functions.

Fact is: The mesmer portal has a range of 6000 (measured on a spell of 1200range) and 6000 range is not enough to force the rendering of the players again, know as culling.

The only abstract sittuatuion in wich a mesmer could abuse the portal in combination with culling is to throw a portal at a random position and let the raid use it befor they actually see the enemy raid but than both sites have to fighting with culling issues.

Culling is allways a problem that both sides have at the same time. There is no way a raid is porting behinde an counter raid and the raid using the portal is magically seeing the enemy and the enemy not.

And if you look back on your WvW experince, if a mesmer portal pops up in your raid you allways see the people going through immediately.

Culling in general shouldnt be clarified a unfair since both sides have to deal with it at the exact same sittuation. Ofc no one likes getting killed without knowing what hit him but allways rember the opponent didnt know how many they killed either.

Well, see it like this:
If some people are camping the jumping puzzel with siege weapons and what not, they cant reinforce there main raid. That gives your server a chance to pull ahead!

If you dont care about the rating of your or any other server and just want to do the Jumping puzzel for the fun of doing it, it might be better for you to buy a Super Nintendo! Because you can get WAY better jumping games on that console!

Edeor.9720:

LearnToPlay.1845:

Eclipse used a memser zerg Oo??? we dont even have more than 4 mesmer and there prolly never online at the same time.

My fault, I expressed myself badly, I wanted to say that you use (abuse) portal bomb in every siege, the zerg mesmer episode is not relatate to Eclipse.

AND the “Portal Redux Roll” or “Portal bomb” as you call it, is a totally established manoeuvre that actually requires coordination to pull off, rather than just pushing in and out, zerging around like nobodys business. No one is ashamed using it. I would do it way more often if I / We could!!!!

Do you know why Portal Redux Roll are so powerfull? Because your zerg is rendered after 5-10 sec, in other words your tactic is all focused on abusing of the culling issue. So yes, technically you’re a bug abuser, but is not only your fault because the main offender is the Anet and her absolute inability to solve the problems related to culling.

p.s.

Portal Redux Roll is not a question of coordination, u just push f over a mesmer portal and spam AoE, not very difficult if u have Ts or ventrilo. Coordination is focus the same target, use cc intelligently, studying the setup of the group ecc…

Well,
Culling is a problem but as you mentioned its pretty much the fault of anet.

But the initial idea behinde the portal redux is that you can easily kill the squishy glasscanons and low lvl chars that are usually standing behind the raid, without the need of fighting through a wall of AOE attacks, CC’s and Tanks. The whole raid(well, atleast 20 man) gets immediately to the weakest point of the counter raid leaving the glasscanons/lowlvls with nothing but the choice of a quick death with atleast some resistance or a fast retreat.

Ydroj.1587:

I also saw some nice Guild Zerg (Eclipse) in action at our Bay yesterday; nice portal action and flanking manouvres. while outnumbered.

Ydroj (Guild of Tweakers)

It was a hilarious figth yesterday between the bay and the keep, realy enjoyed it.

Edeor.9720:

Am I wrong when I say that the main tactic of your commander is the portal bomb? No, and when u use portal bombs during every siege, then is cleary a trademark, one day u used even a mesmer zerg to portal bomb inside a tower lol (Eclipse Guild FTW).

If you are ashamed of your severs gameplay style is just your problem

Eclipse used a memser zerg Oo??? we dont even have more than 4 mesmer and there prolly never online at the same time.

AND the “Portal Redux Roll” or “Portal bomb” as you call it, is a totally established manoeuvre that actually requires coordination to pull off, rather than just pushing in and out, zerging around like nobodys business. No one is ashamed using it. I would do it way more often if I / We could!!!!

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

To the GM of Eclipse Gaming [DE]:

We spotted a number of your guild glitching into Sunnyhill on our own borderlands a few moments ago. Also warping pets in through doors.

You might want to have a quiet word with your people. We’ve taken numerous screenshots and reported to this to ArenaNet.

I urge anyone that spots people from their own team glitching (i.e. cheating) to kick people from guilds before you become tarnished with the poor behaviour of others.

Hello,

yes some of our people actually glitchet through the tower gate, but thats because some skills, like the Heartseeker of the Thief, result in glitching through the gate(in Sunnyhill only). We heard that sunnyhill was bugged but we didnt know wich skill in particular caused that. At 5% Life remaining of the Tower gat you Guys Destroyed our ram’s. In the result we did just normal weapon dmg on the gate to get the last 5% down and just naturally all classes started spamming there skills, like Heartseeker. But still every Member of [ECL] that got acidentally glitched in immediately left the tower. We didnt got a mesmer in the tower and Portal us in or anything.