Guild Wars 2

Incredible ! If you want money , give us a real extension. I won’t spend anymore money for gem.

-Train, train train again and again
-know perfectly all the path
-if d/f too hard switch to staff or S/F. It’s better to do less dps and staying alive

With practice, lvl 50with PUGs is really not a problem but you must adapt your stuff/weapons. And don’t worry there are still few parts where it’s hard to dps while stay alive.

Only auto attack is allowed.

75 000……..Ok then go to WB Jormag, with the bus be at equal distance of each leg and you’ll see amazing numbers. I could see numbers until around 240 000 !!!!! Couldn’t believed my eyes !

I use D/D full PVT armor with 0/0/4 (or 2)/4(or 6)/6 with runes of strenght, very good for McM. You can use celestial gear but I find that power is not enought.

D/D 0/0/4/4/6 PVT gear. Very good survability, nice dps.

For a smooth run I like the guard/ele/war combination, what you want for the rest of the team with a preference for a thief beacause of dredge fractal. But as usual, skill is what matters. Maybe when fractal will be more difficult (we can dream a bit !) you’ll have to make a more decisive choice of which class you need.

? “Cool run” of course !

Fractal lvl49 at Carnass. I’m ele D/F, the 2 guards kept on putting walls at around 600, I was alone in front of the wall in order to touch the boss !

Tman.6349:

Guys, Ele is a support profession and is meant to stay in Water with Monk Runes! You will survive just fine…..maybe…. :p

lol, was quite a good joke !

Anyway, ele can do great damage in D/F and even S/F with quite good survability even in the highest fractals, that’s why the zerk nerfing won’t change many things in my opinion.

Cries Of Sorrow.5864:

Which isnt true once again.

Oups, seems that I shouldn’t play only FGS ? Arggg I’m lost again !
True that I will have to stop wasting my time….
Have fun guys !

Nikaido.3457:

I’ll stop here because any more time given to you is time purely wasted.

Really ? I can say that it was a great discovery for me, as a master of elementalist you opened my eyes on THE only way an elementalist can do good DPS : FGS on a wall. That will really change my gameplay and I thank you sooo much.
Sincerely.

PS : I must remember now to specify on LFG : “taking only ele with FGS on wall”

Nikaido.3457:

Machupo.1095:

I do more DPS than you

If that guardian was running meta, then no. Hell, no. Maybe when you can FGS things against a wall but I highly doubt that you had much opportunities to do that in a FOTM 49 pug out of all things.

On a complete run of fractal I would be interested to see how many hits points made a guardian and an ele, how many mobs were killed !!! Damages with frost bow or FGS with ele zerk, 15 to 24 might stacks, fury and so one are just so hudge especially on groups of mobs, and it can be done it quite often. With S/D and better D/D ele sustains the comparaison with guardian because ele D/D constantly do at least average good dps. True that I don’t see big numbers like 20k, but I prefer the high frequency of 5-8k hit points !!!

Noah.4756:

The bottom line is that 9 out of 10 times groups who advertize with specific requirements will have a better experience than those groups who leave the advertisement open for discussion.

It’s a simple but effective filter that weeds out those players that could potentially delay or prevent the dungeon from finishing. Will it always work? Of course not. Will it increase the chance for a smooth run? From my experience, definitely.

It’true that specific requirements can help however we often see
- “zerk only” hum not sure it will be a proof of skill
- “AP>5k” same thing
- “exp” ahhhh the best requirement, means nothing because we can see it even for those looking for lvl1 fractal !!!!!
- for fun “lvl 49 , AP>5k need opener” : in my case I just say "sry i’m lvl 50 but only 4k !!!!!! seems I can ’t come !!!!

Want a real requirement ? : “master your class/skills”.
Unfortunately many people think that running meta build and zerk will ensure a good run. Maybe with easy dungeons or low lvl fractal but not for the others. A skilled person is what we need even with a diiferent build.
I remember a lvl49 fractal with a “meta requirement”. I was ele 0/30/20/0/20, boon duration ans especially stab. A guardian told me " hey i said meta and you give me stab, you’re not meta !!!!" I answered : “I give you regen, stab , speed , protection fury and 10 stack of might and I do more DPS than you, do you give me more than I give to you ?!!!!!!!” . He didn’t know what to answer…….

Sad Tas.2509:

I never said that its the be all end all of rules, but its a good measuring stick for weeding out people who dont know what they are doing

I understood well you didn’t say AP was the only good measure but for me it’s not even a good one as you said. Better let the person prove his skills and at last kiking if it is really impossible to play with . So often I see people laughing at me at the start of lvl 49 or 50 “hey guys, look this ele he won’t stay long alive !!!”. Fun is what this game should give us first and I read a lot of commentary saying that gw2 is too easy (that is true) so having someone not very good in the team should sometimes bring more challenge.

Sad Tas.2509:

jesus christ, achievement points mean you have PLAYED THE GAME, and there is a better chance of you knowing how to go through content than not. Its not a set in stone rule, but generally the more achievement points the better/more experience the player is at PVE CONTENT

Poor Jesus !!!
I play ele, full ascended, did around 500 fractal (i’m lvl 50), nearly all the dungeons, and I have 3900 AP ! Why ? I play nearly only fractal and WvW, not event. AP does’nt give much informations……

“If you are using scepter for anything other than might stacking you are doing it wrong. "
I really disagree, with 0/30/20/0/20 you always have at least 10 stack, a lot of boons and i don’t take boons of teamates. What’s more good survability. I really enjoy this build and this is another very good way to play ele.

As S/D you souldn’t die too much even in high fractal. In standard PvE nothing should trouble you too much, I think that you need to dodge more/practise more.
Try 0/30/20/0/20, you’ll get fres air, mass buff as protection ,; stab, regen, fury and so on. You can put more on water and arcane first but at the end go back to DPS because ele is born to make DPS !!!!!!!

“No, ele isn’t being destroyed in the next patch”
Right, it has already been destroyed !!!!

Don’t nerf, BUFF whatever you want but don’t nerf zerk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“do nothing combined with making pve content more challenging and difficult is the best option arenanet has. but its too much work i guess.
its even too much work to communicate with the dungeon community.”
I agree 100%, a lot of people use zerk (and I) because PvE is too easy , even fractal lvl 50, that’s why we can afford having less hp. Make PVE more challenging and we won’t be able to have full zerk.

OMG !!!!! Plz remember that we are crafting ascended armor and I think a lot of zerk……..Wasting mass po ???? Hope no.

Selecting by AP for exemple…..ahahhahaha just a joke ! I have 3100 AP but i run fractal lvl 49 with no problem as an ele. So why only 3100 ap ? Because I just like fractal and McM…….Having only zerk for Cita p1 ? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl so easy that any kind of stuff is enought. All this things are just stupid and that is not fun nor game, just let these people where they are…….

Guys you are just frightening me : I play lvl 30-40 fractal at this time and I just can’t play full zerk most of the time, I take too much…….must be noob I think…… Are you falling more than the other classe or not during the run ?

“This patch’s goal for the elementalist was to increase the power of the Earth, Air and Fire lines, while taking away some of the need to go into the Arcane line.”

???!!!! Let me see (sry for my english I’m french !)
- Increasing what ? Many of us use 10 to 30 in Arcane. Not only for speed attunment swith but also and maybe mostly for traits !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! vigor on crit, boon for swith and so one. Now, we must choose between speed attunment switch and traits ? OMG, we were so overpowered ? Really ? Having perma vigor with air fresh build is such an insane advantage for ele ? I just remember you that we are in paper……
-Ok now I have around 10 more points in traits to spend, you really think that I’ll have such an enormous advantage ? It will increase power of water, air, fire , earth line ? It’s a joke. We don’t do much dps and 10 points won’t change anything, we have weak armor and 10 points won’t change anything, and I can go on like that for a while.
- I know that our class is a mix of all the others, we must manage everyhting, running all the time, pressing 1 millions times buttons in 1s but plz don’t make ele even more useless. Give us a role, some specificity, some exellent spells, a real place in the game. We are exellent nowhere and not good in many aspect. Why can’t you find a real place for ele ? Having 20 spells that do not do very good things will never better than 5 good ones. Ele could be heal support, high speed to balance weak armor, king of alterations (that make huge damage of course !), king of damaging aoe with staff………so many possibilities and still nothing decisive.

Sure that ele is active combat but we don’t have the tools to balance the fact that we are weak, we don’t DPS, we don’t support a lot. We are just trying to DPS a bit without beeing OS. We are in paper and Anet tells us that perma vigor is just a too big advantage ??

“full potential of this profession”…..Don’t worry even at lvl80 elem has no real potential but this class is not too bad everywhere and is exelent nowehere. That’s the real problem. It seems that Anet has not understood that they created a class with no real specificity. Ah yes we have 20 spells , so good, but we do nothing really powerfull with 20, 10 would be ok if we could have great combination spells/taits/ability.
With this patch thay say “look you won’t need to spend eveything in arcane” but to add what ? Someting that change the fact that ele is at the moment incapable of beeing exellent in one point (support, dps or else). Plz Arnet, stop thinking that changes like this make great difference, give ele a real place in the game, give us a real utility.