Guild Wars 2

Also why did this thread get moved? You should move it back, I think VII’s list is more pertaining to WvW than some other posts left on the WvW section.

There’s this perception that you’re perpetuating that implies old GvG players are somehow a catalyst for being good. The truth of the situation is that BoRP was very bad when we formed up and the only reason we beat people was because NA was in the worst state it’s ever been in competition-wise. Every player in our roster from ‘Old GvG guilds’ started off by playing this meta in a completely improper way. Then we raided 5 days a week for 3 hours a day and did footage review of every player in the guild relentlessly for additional hours on end. We tryharded for ten straight months.

The guild you’re referring to dying is [GS] Gun Squad but I took four people from Gun Squad who all also had to learn the meta mostly from scratch. BoRP was my A-team from the perspective of attitude and personality that I would enjoy playing with, on top of this I did a very large amount of research into the EU scene which was still competitive so we were immediately on proper builds. If everybody in a guild records and uploads, and the footage is reviewed properly (which we had to learn how to do) then you can improve any group of players by a very large amount.

The only thing I did with BoRP that isn’t accessible to everybody is have some really awesome friends from a lot of different places in the game who all had amazing attitudes.

Anyways I don’t really care what people think so I’m going to stop replying, but I’d really like people to stop perpetuating this belief that the game is ruled by ‘overstacked rosters of old gvg veterans’ because it simply isn’t close to true and it discourages newer groups of players from pushing themselves further, which is actually what this game mode needs to be more competitive.

Have a good day everybody, and thanks for the positive shoutouts from others in this thread.

SniffyCube.6107:

Years ago, a list like this would be relevant, but now the experienced players have pooled into 1-3 guilds and that pool will probably become smaller with time.

Atm, imo, the best guilds are kek or borp and then when those guilds break apart, it’ll be whichever guild those same players have gone into. It used to be a huge list and a very spread out list when this game was actually alive, but at this point it’s the same names under a different guild.

Maybe those guilds will continue to stockpile the more experienced players and run 25 – 30 deep gvg veterans. Why not? You can’t fault people for playing with their friends. Everyone likes steamrolling. ..Maybe they’ll break apart into smaller guilds and try to train new people… who knows, but I don’t see the competitive scene reviving itself anytime soon. Not the way things are going, and it’s pretty hard to pick up pugs and try to build a core with them. Combine that with how badly everyone memes on guilds trying to build… not many make it.

Also, the “rest” of our guilds all have footage of us dumpstering each other at one point in time. It’s pretty hard to tell at this point who is the better guild. Maybe over the course of the year certain guilds happened to come out on top more often than not? Everyone here has had a kitten day or two. I’m not sure what the litmus test is, but if this is a purely open field guide then I know for a fact I’ve killed almost everyone on this list at one point or another and have been killed by most at least once. It’s pretty much impossible to get an objective view at this point.

All that being said, VII has always been fun fights. As have the rest of you. All we can really do now is go down with the ship as we get 1 new thing added to WvW every 4-6 months in the hopes that we all stay interested enough to keep playing.

TLDR: Same kitten different day.

jul… xxx Julian xxx, you got kicked 5 months ago. let it go.

Hey, I’m the leader of BoRP. I think you have a very unclear view of what kind of guild we are, what we’ve done, and who we are. In our roster we have about six people out of 28 that anybody would consider ‘old GvG veterans.’ Almost all of us are competitively-minded players from different parts of the game that came together with a positive attitude and a willingness to improve. We’ve trained from scratch about 90% of our current roster and continue to accept players from every part of the game that have a decent mechanical level and a good attitude. One of the best players in our guild came from TORK.

A competitive game mode needs people at a high level and people at a mid level. A lot of people have this misconception that every top guild needs to disband for there to be a viable scene; but the truth is that if that happens then there’s nobody to drive progression. The GvGs and open field fights BoRP had against KEK throughout HoT pushed both guild’s members as both players and theory crafters, leading to a much more refined meta in NA.

I’ve gotten pretty tired of uninformed people saying this repeatedly and have felt like it invalidates all the hard work my guild members have put in for the last year, so I apologize if my post comes off as aggressive.

Thanks for the fights VII.
www.borpguild.com

I’m extremely confident that invisible commander tags would be a positive thing for the game. A large majority of guilds would not use them, there are very few guilds playing the game consistently who have 0 desire for any pug presence. During NA prime I very much doubt there’s any server in the game that will have no commander tags visible if invisible commander tags are possible. Some people like playing WvW in a very organized fashion, and with the current balance of the game having somebody unorganized with you can be a very negative affect.

There needs to be features added that appeal to both the casual player base and the more competitive. This is something that is a positive for competitive guilds and really doesn’t negatively impact more casual guilds or pug groups.

This is a great idea and would be extremely beneficial to a lot of people playing the game mode.

This is a pretty big problem for those who use the guild halls to fight on NA/EU. Guild Hall arena really needs to have some things changed about it. Mainly retaliation, this down state skill, and confusion damage.

I posted this on both his reddit post and his gw2wvw post, figure I should post it on the official forum because it’s generally a different crowd here and everybody should be aware that the meta is much more diverse than he is describing.

Neorick you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zR4FGVW5aT5rlvVlQvcVc9qNycrFrbcWjtGcIwEQBdk/edit?usp=sharing

This spreadsheet is significantly more indicative of the current state of the game than anything you’ve posted or discussed. If you scroll down on the spreadsheet you’ll see power necros listed, this is slightly out of date (a few weeks out of touch with EU) but there are plenty of guilds running plenty of damage oriented things.

Even look at EU results and guilds, somebody from EU correct me if I’m wrong but Vng and a few other guilds aren’t running mercy runes and have beaten guilds that are. Ash prior to their disband was running extremely high DPS and was beating most every guild extremely consistently.

Most guilds run mallyx/jalis, Jalis has already been nerfed and doesn’t stack additively with other damage reduction.
I don’t know why you typed out so much about warrior but warriors now run significantly more dps than prior to HoT where worker warrior was common, most guilds are running full dps warriors.

Honestly this post is extremely ill-informed, constructed, presented, and it’s an absolute negative impact on any WvW or GvG based community.
I’m really disappointed that you would make a post like this, Neo. I had a higher respect for you and your guild.

I hate this change more than anything Arenanet has done to the game since I’ve started playing. Changing it to saturday I was alright with; changing it to the afternoon was a horrible decision. We don’t want to play all saturday; we want to have reset at a time where our guilds can have everybody together. I really don’t think Arenanet understands why we as WvWers enjoy reset. Please leave reset the way it is, or at least at the same time it is. It really makes no sense to me. We want to be able to populate reset immediately not come home to whatever server has better EU coverage already dominating the matchup.