Guild Wars 2

Fateless.6985:

Metsuro.2689:

SpectacularYak.6518:

Metsuro.2689:

Anet is not telling us rezzing our pets is pointless in combat. They are telling us people whine to much trying to loot during combat. If rezzing our pets was pointless in combat we wouldn’t have to worry about it would we? They’d revive on swap like they used to in bwe1. But thats not the case is it?

ArenaNet

This is because you can either use F4 to swap pets which will bring that pet back alive or you can wait until you are out of combat at which point you pet will revive automatically.

We felt it was doing a disservice to Ranger players to incentivize them to spend a long time reviving their pet when it was a very inefficient thing to do and happened after combat anyway.

Anything else I can help you with today?

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about. Being without a pet at all is better than taking less than 10 seconds mid fight to rez your pet? Just stop talking. You have no clue what you are talking about.

They dont want you rezzing in a single pull until the end. In a long drawn out fight against a boss or anything where you are stuck without a pet for a minute or more because they are both dead is a bad.

Knowing when to rez and when not to was something easy to learn.

Which again, goes back to my point about you knowing nothing.

Let’s say your pet dies. You switch pets and this puts pet swap on a 30 second CD. After that 30 seconds, you can swap back to your other pet which is alive. If you can’t keep your second pet alive for 30 seconds, you’re not doing very well. Secondly, it takes about 10-15 seconds to revive a dead pet while in combat. So technically if you only keep your second pet alive for 15 seconds, you’re in the same position if you tried to ressurect, except you get to dps instead of stand their defenseless.

You sound like an idiot, defending your position on ressurecting a dead pet in the middle of combat.

Doesn’t it sound silly to stop all your dps for 10 seconds, just to have you pet alive for 20 seconds?

Lets say your pet does 5k damage in 20 seconds. You do 10k damage in 20 seconds.

That’s a total of 15k damage in 20 seconds. Then you spend 10 seconds ressurecting your pet. 30 seconds you do 25k damage.

Now lets say you leave your pet dead. 15k damage in 20 seconds. Pet dies. PET SWAP. you do another 7.5k damage with your next pet in the following 10 seconds.

22.5k damage vs. 15k damage over 30 seconds. Hrm…

While a pet is a large portion of the overall damage, lets not forget that they have other things other than just damage. Healing, CC, Buffs, ability to rez others… Can’t do any of that if its… you know… Dead… Which is common in boss fights, or large group fights. Because pets, are useless. They cannot run but in a straight line and can never dodge from damage.

spayced.2016:

I never once rezzed my pet in battle, and I feel like the pop up to rez was just annoying. If you are fighting a boss that kills your pet so quickly, how can you possibly think it’s worth it to spend 30 seconds rezzing so he can fight for 5 seconds?

In a dungeon, ranger pets are better suited for search and rescue but this means they may likely die as they are rooted until its finished.

Which is the point, pets don’t dodge and always run in straight lines.

SpectacularYak.6518:

Metsuro.2689:

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about. Being without a pet at all is better than taking less than 10 seconds mid fight to rez your pet? Just stop talking. You have no clue what you are talking about.

Uh…I’m not without a pet, guy. F4. Healthy pet. Pet hurt? F4. New healthy pet. Pet hurt? F4. Pet one is now recovered. Repeat ad infinitum.

Try pulling less than 10 mobs next time and see how that works for you. Or don’t, fill your boots. I have to admit this has been fairly hilarious though, so thank you.

Oh fighting a boss that two shot your pet? f4 in a new one. Oh… it was 3 shot? Ok wait out that 50 seconds left on the swap timer.

Oh swapped before it died? Ok oh no… your other pet just got 1 shot? Enjoy 15 more seconds of less damage while…. waiting to swap to a pet that will trigger a 1m swap cooldoown.

Stop talking until you learn more about the mechanic.

SpectacularYak.6518:

Metsuro.2689:

Anet is not telling us rezzing our pets is pointless in combat. They are telling us people whine to much trying to loot during combat. If rezzing our pets was pointless in combat we wouldn’t have to worry about it would we? They’d revive on swap like they used to in bwe1. But thats not the case is it?

ArenaNet

This is because you can either use F4 to swap pets which will bring that pet back alive or you can wait until you are out of combat at which point you pet will revive automatically.

We felt it was doing a disservice to Ranger players to incentivize them to spend a long time reviving their pet when it was a very inefficient thing to do and happened after combat anyway.

Anything else I can help you with today?

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about. Being without a pet at all is better than taking less than 10 seconds mid fight to rez your pet? Just stop talking. You have no clue what you are talking about.

They dont want you rezzing in a single pull until the end. In a long drawn out fight against a boss or anything where you are stuck without a pet for a minute or more because they are both dead is a bad.

Knowing when to rez and when not to was something easy to learn.

Which again, goes back to my point about you knowing nothing.

SpectacularYak.6518:

Metsuro.2689:

And you are only looking at half of the problem. I solo alot. I usually end up fighting 8-9 mobs at once. By the time I kill them all they are rezzing. The inability to rez while i’m being attacked just means I’m losing damage and have no way to recover it without running away.

Oh for GODS sake, no I am NOT looking at “half the problem”. Admittedly, I did not take your fundamental inability to your control your aggro into account, but that’s not really relevant to the discussion at hand.

Just CYCLE YOUR PETS. The F4 button is part of your class mechanic, you’re meant to be using it. If you’re running two cats and have zero points in BM, and pulling 10 mobs at a time, and then coming in here and moaning that you can’t spend 20 seconds on your knees soothing your dead pet while said 10 mobs beat the hell out of you, then the change to pet resurrection is the LEAST of your problems.

I am telling you rezzing your pets was pointless. Others are telling you rezzing your pets was pointless. ARENA NET is telling you rezzing your pets was pointless. What will it take to convince you? Fiery letters in the sky?

Anet is not telling us rezzing our pets is pointless in combat. They are telling us people whine to much trying to loot during combat. If rezzing our pets was pointless in combat we wouldn’t have to worry about it would we? They’d revive on swap like they used to in bwe1. But thats not the case is it?

SpectacularYak.6518:

Metsuro.2689:

A large portion of ranger damage is the pet, having it dead is a bad idea. Meaning that rezzing it would bring back your lack of dps.

The biggest problem with the ranger is that the pet is 30-40% of total damage.

I’m aware of how much of my total damage is accounted for by my pet, which is why I use F4 before they die. I’ve had both pets down about a half dozen times in almost 80 levels, and in none of those cases would taking 20 seconds of time out to rez them have been an intelligent decision.

And you are only looking at half of the problem. I solo alot. I usually end up fighting 8-9 mobs at once. By the time I kill them all they are rezzing. The inability to rez while i’m being attacked just means I’m losing damage and have no way to recover it without running away.

SpectacularYak.6518:

Humor.5763:

Keep in mind, this is just coming from my point of view, but I am little disappointed with the Rangers update, particular, not being able to resurrect your animals during battle. Does this not kind of diminish the Rangers defense? From what I’ve seen playing with my girlfriend who’s the Ranger class (I am a warrior), but before hand, we’d always be striving to revive her pet when it died, as it would pull more agro then myself away from us, while we go all out on let’s say Champion monsters.

In my personal view, this was a stupid decision on your part ArenaNet, making the only way to revive a Pet out of combat, and or switching to another pet, which could just as easily die within another 10 seconds. So, what’s up with this update? I see this not as a good thing, rather just a poor decision on your part, to make Rangers feel let’s say… “Less useful” while in a group, or just playing solo, as the Pet is what takes the damage, or most of it, while soloing as well.

Again, this is just my personal opinion about the update. Do any other Rangers out there, feel that this was a fair, and just update?

Stopping to rez a pet during combat was always the height of pointless endeavors. It takes FOREVER, by which time the pet swap is already available again if you’ve somehow managed to burn through both pets on the same encounter.

It was a sensible update. The way it was before had some Rangers believing dropping everything to rez their pet instead of just swapping out was somehow a good idea.

A large portion of ranger damage is the pet, having it dead is a bad idea. Meaning that rezzing it would bring back your lack of dps.

The biggest problem with the ranger is that the pet is 30-40% of total damage.