Guild Wars 2

Thanks Jeff, a long explaination is sometimes hard/boring to do, especially with this kind of issues and speaking to our kind of people (theoretically non-IT people), but it’s definitely worthing it on the result.

I guess now the players on this thread will surely better understand all the isseus related that make the postpone of the fix.

Thanks again

StygSec.7163:

I actually like your retort.

It’s well supportive, and points out flaws in my reasoning.

While I do understand the difference between beta state and beta, and the PR mess this single bug has caused there is no reason to go out of your way and think you’re far superior than everyone else.

I have close family who in the IT field, and at an engineering firm. I do understand the whole majority of what people expect, and what they want. However realistically they’re never going to get that.

I’m actually quite fine with people whining about this because the situation warrants it, and it’s expected. However the majority of the people here feel like they’re wishing mass death on the QA team, and Jeffery for the lack of communication; which is another grave mistake.

I understand the frustration here. I have a character also stuck on this, and I’ve been trying to be reasonable. However it is ineffective to go out of your way and state in a rant “Are you really a Test, marking tech, or developer?” then go off and point out why you think I’m not.

With the “Oh, you don’t know much about IT because of…” is a majority of the reason why I don’t like the IT people. I have knowledge of almost every sect of a game developer, and the people who should come out with a press release on this bug is PR. Though I don’t think they’re do it if people get violent and press on with death warrants towards Anet.

Well, as I said, I don’t usually reply on forums, that’s mainly why I didn’t answer to your post (and I didn’t really see either where the need was for me to reply or where your question is).
So, I didn’t run off, as you said, and keep myself informed about this post nearly every 2 hours while I’m playing (Yes, I’m unemployed for now, so I have some time to spend/waste^^).

I think you definitely misunderstood the meaning of my question about the developer/tester thing.
About that, I did notice that the vocabulary you employed was more specific and that your logic about the process of testing and so on was pretty accurate, and that’s mainly why I wanted to know if you were part of the process or not, as it could have been interesting to have another point of view of the thing.

That’s why I was glad when you said you were tester and that’s why I didn’t push forward, I didn’t see the need to.

So, I’d say that, considering your tester job, you could maybe keep us informed about the status of the update, as you seem to be willing to communicate to us (and I’m really glad that someone of the team seems more concerned about the issue; in fact, I’d say that it’s more or less everything that we ask for).

Another idea that came to my mind is that, if they (I mean Anet, developers and so on) want to double-check or triple-check a new fix, why don’t they use the gamers to do it.
I remember when I was playing WoW years ago, lots of gamers were used to beta test the future updates, it’s only if the players want to do it and it will not affect the other players cause it can be handle in an closed environment like a dungeon.

I know you may say that the players would not like to do it, but considering the two “communities” we talked about before, I’m more than sure that the community liking the “new” stuffs, would be more than happy to test new stuff even if there is some bugs in it.

Well, an idea as another, but it would be great if you could give a word to your bosses about that, it would simplify your life and ours

And, just to finish, because your sentence has really “shocked” me, I think the gamers here that post about this topic don’t want the deaths of the programmers cause:
- we need them to keep playing
- we love them for giving us this beautiful game
- we know that their jobs is harassing, frustrating (cause they cannot communicate everything they would like to) and we respect them for doing that
- we don’t even know them so why would we like their deaths?
- and so on (I’m a bit tired cause there is so many reasons I could give, from “everybody loves everybody” reasons, to “it’s forbidden by the law” reasons )

Well, another rant, sorry guys, I’ll try to not reply too oftenly on this topic as I may get “emotional” to quote another of the authors of rants I love to read in this topic

StygSec ? Are you a developer, tester or chief Marketing?

You really seem to want to defend a lot Anet for their mistakes not really bearables despite the fact it is only their second game (as you say, but I would have say that the Nightfall extension count more as a standalone than an extension)…

I would say it’s very nice from you to defend them but, as you said before in your reply, there are two communities in the game, the one that want new stuff, and the other that want “reliable” stuff. I did a lot of mmorpg before, and, without talking about WoW that didn’t have the same budget, and they always tried to keep some kind of balance between them.

I think, even if we can be tolerant with the responsibles of the updates, they should, at least make a hot fix and give some kind of deadline for us to hope for a solution.

So, yes, there is a lot of different path of stories working but, if one of your tire is flat, will you just continue to drive considering that the three others will do the job for him?

Sorry for the rant again, but let’s keep focused, it’s not us the problem until then, it’s Anet blocking the fix.

I usually never register/login to a forum to reply, but for this thread I just wanted to add my personal “individuality” (^^) to this issue.

Maybe when they’ll see that almost all of the accounts are stucked there they’ll get “concerned” enough to get a bug fixed…

I didn’t read all of the previous thread that has been locked but as a developer and working for huge software projects, I know that it is a major lack in issue management from Anet, cause the first thing we usually do, as developers, when we see such a big issue in the main functionality of our software is to “hot-fix” it, meaning here that we block the functionality to avoid any usage and any further block for the user.
(Wow, that was a huge sentence, sorry^^)

This was my first character since I played GW, cause I went to Ausatrlia for a while, without being able to play GW2.
I was soooo excited to finally play cause all my mates were playing since a while and were teasing me with spoilers on the game…

I’m now pretty much frustrated that, with my main character, now 50 in less than a week of game (got the game last Tuesday), I cannot go further in the story that I was playing for (being more a rpg player, I really love the stories…).

Well, I’ll not write a novel, just wanted to share my disappointment among others and represent also the french and swiss community in this debate (which is more a long following of complaints, but whatever^^).

Keep it up guys, maybe with 10000 replies and 1000000 views they’ll consider that an issue overlapping on youtube’s best video’s view is a bit too much for a game issue…
(sorry if the last part is not really understandable^^)