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As a player ,I play games for mechanics. If I want to enjoy a good story I’ll read a book or watch a movie. As a “mechanics” player I enjoy gearing my character to the teeth,learning the ins and outs of its play style, synergies and I love perfecting my playing. I constantly look for builds, discuss with other people and try to improve. I like practicing rotations, so I can be as efficient as possible. Raids fit me perfectly. I familiarized myself with what my profession was supposed to do, what gear I should be using (metabattle is a wonderful resource) found a guild and jumped into raiding.
And I loved it. My former raiding experience, (albeit a lot of it) was mainly from WoW and Rift. Both games are ultimately the same in that regard. So the fresh new take on raiding from gw2 captivated me. I like how they handled “tanking” and “healing” ,I like that you cannot do gimmicky stuff to skip or ignore mechanics (like dungeons) and most of all I like that the weight of the encounter feels like it’s equally placed between all players.
I don’t know whether you play on EU or NA but both regions have a ton of guilds that teach raids and offer teaching runs. I myself recently joined a raiding hub (non rep guild full of players that want to raid) and there’s a raid group every day doing some boss. Do some search on reddit and google, you’re bound to find something.
The thing that’s REALLY important to fix in your mind here, is that while you enjoy something, that doesn’t make it the “right” way to play the game, it doesn’t make other players “wrong” for not enjoying it how you do.
the problem with raiding is not a difficulty finding “teaching runs,” it’s a complete disinterest in engaging in “teaching runs.” It’s about wanting to not NEED a “teaching run.” How you felt about Ascended grinding, other players feel about “teaching raids,” they just want a challenge level where they can go in and apply basic gameplay skills to pass the encounter in the first few attempts, and anything more is grind.
People who enjoy raids really need this driven into their skull like an iron spike: Just because you enjoy raids, does not mean that everyone else is exactly like you, only not as “enlightened” as you are yet. Many people genuinely enjoy different gameplay experiences, and no amount of attempts at raiding will lead to them enjoying it the way you do, and that’s ok.
I’m sorry, but when in my post did I say or even imply that raiding is THE gameplay and that if you’re not enjoying it you’re playing the game wrong? I came to this thread to share my opinion, because it was full of hate. Nobody actually said anything good about raiding. I deliberately tried to share my experience and thoughts without attacking anyone and you come and say that " I need to have bashed in my skull that not everyone will enjoy raiding the way I do" ? Who’s being discriminative now?
I agree that people will feel this way about teaching runs, but I do not understand them. If you you do not try to learn the tips and tricks of any group hobby that requires team effort, I don’t see how you’ll be accepted anywhere. I don’t see why this logic shouldn’t be applied here ,where it’s a game made by humans for humans. Anet themselves said that raids will not be for everyone and that they’d require dedication, practice and consistency.
Which is the same for me with legendary weapons. I feel that it’s a stupidly huge time and gold sink and that the rewards aren’t even remotely worth the resources invested. But I don’t come to the forums to kitten how that is stupid and that it should be nerfed and that it breeds greedy people that play the tp and farm for 6 hours a day, right ?
So, I played GW2 when it first came out, and had a lot of fun with it — at first. Fractals rolled around, and they were fun, but you can only do the same thing so many times before it gets boring. So, I quit at about the beginning of Living Story season 1.
Flash forward a few years, and here I started playing again ~3 weeks ago. When I heard about new fractals, a raid, and all kinds of challenging content, I just had to come back! So, now I have an 80 Engineer and Elementalist (both fully geared out), I’ve been raiding in MMOs for upwards of 12 years, and all that — yet, to date, I’ve not even set foot inside the raid.
I’ve been listing myself in LFG for a week and a half or so, I’ve been asking around in chat, and so on. But, there’s just no one pugging a raid, or filling a spot, or any of that. And no guilds are recruiting that actually go into the raid.
So, what exactly is the issue? Is the raid in GW2 just one of the hardest in the genre or something, or are people just being silly?
Raiding was the main reason I came back to the game. : / And it doesn’t seem like I’ll even set foot in the raid any time soon.
I was in the absolute same boat as you. I quit when LS1 came up because I was bored, played a bit later when ascended armor came out. I crafted 2 pieces, saw what a grind it was and how it had no purpose so I deemed it not worthy of my time and moved on other games. A month ago I decided I’ll give gw2 another shot and came back. Bought the expansion and BOOM , new maps, new stuff to gather in order to gear up, there were ascended weapons now. But most importantly, there was actually a purpose for them! RAIDS! Group content that wasn’t boring zerg group farming of events or champions, was challenging and I was incredibly interested how Anet handled the role issues that appeared in the other raiding games I played.
As a player ,I play games for mechanics. If I want to enjoy a good story I’ll read a book or watch a movie. As a “mechanics” player I enjoy gearing my character to the teeth,learning the ins and outs of its play style, synergies and I love perfecting my playing. I constantly look for builds, discuss with other people and try to improve. I like practicing rotations, so I can be as efficient as possible. Raids fit me perfectly. I familiarized myself with what my profession was supposed to do, what gear I should be using (metabattle is a wonderful resource) found a guild and jumped into raiding.
And I loved it. My former raiding experience, (albeit a lot of it) was mainly from WoW and Rift. Both games are ultimately the same in that regard. So the fresh new take on raiding from gw2 captivated me. I like how they handled “tanking” and “healing” ,I like that you cannot do gimmicky stuff to skip or ignore mechanics (like dungeons) and most of all I like that the weight of the encounter feels like it’s equally placed between all players.
I don’t know whether you play on EU or NA but both regions have a ton of guilds that teach raids and offer teaching runs. I myself recently joined a raiding hub (non rep guild full of players that want to raid) and there’s a raid group every day doing some boss. Do some search on reddit and google, you’re bound to find something.