Guild Wars 2

Q: What can make WvW as good as DAoC’s?

A: Rose-colored glasses and a time machine.

I’m not being sarcastic. The RvR concept implemented in DAoC was in a different era.

I loved DAoC and the RvR there. Still my all-time favorite MMO; and I have no illusions about the balance issues (52 classes at one point) and the problems that ToA created. (Yes, I was on the internals board.)

First, there was no such thing as server transfers. If you wanted to play on a different realm you rerolled from scratch. And PvE leveling, then releveling RRs was painful. Or you bought a “used” account, and whatever reputation went with it (which back then, was everything.) Let’s not even talk about the weapon leveling process that erupted from ToA.

The population was incredibly small compared to today’s averages. (300k at peak).

And “coverage” back then meant that someone scheduled a 3 or 5 AM surprise relic raid when everybody else was sleeping.

And as for maps, they weren’t even trying to be balanced. Most of the fighting took place in the large, open, flat areas of Emain, affectionately known as “the golfcourse”.

And do we really want to go back to paying for gate repairs as well as having to haul lumber while encumbered? I know I don’t.

Those are most of the significant differences. Not all are good ones. Yes, realm pride and community there was amazing. That sense carried forward into this game’s implementation of RvR in some small measure.

As much as I believe server transfers are an issue (and have said I don’t believe characters that have stepped into WvW ought to be able to transfer), it’s a different era, and transfers have been a game industry norm now for almost a decade.

So yes, there are things that can be done to improve GW2’s WvW… but it needs to be a step forward refining what currently exists. And the current design implementation already includes server transfers which can’t be undone. I can’t see throwing that out to take a step back towards DAoC.

/turns discussion back towards details such as siege, etcetera

Obligatory warning for those that dont realize it: dont buy/sell the items in the livestream, nor edge into the markets shown. 9/10 times threads like these are merely attempts to make a quick gold or hundred off players that dont realize the markets they’re buying into are already tainted.

JahRo.6432:

Lotus.9746:

Ele Update:

Black water called me a cheese build.

~Winter.

Warrior Update:

Black water calls hammer warrior cheese and OP.

Cheese update:

Warriors: with weapons
Guardians: Got boon/homie specs
Ranger: Nike/condi
Thief: Daggers in any hand
Ele: all specs excluding staff
Necro: pushing any buttons
Mesmer: Mesmer
Engi: Anything that blast finishes

Perp runes, cherry on top.

JamboHammer.4397:

ya cuz as a zerker mes u can handle conf, burning, bleeding, torment, plus immob and stunlock and another kid protecting perplexity runes so sad these days its funny how all u “mesmers” say u can handle condi’s so well yet when i ran condi war every mesmer in my path was dead before the fight even started with those 20+ bleeds stacks and 7+ torment stacks plus being a complete and utter tank with massive condi dmg not even burst from a shatter could take me down and if u were smart at all about perplexity runes u are aware most ppl run 40% condi duration makeing there conf last 20 seconds and if u cant clear that being a zerker mesmer ur just a sitting duck unless in ur case u just run away like a little girl and still die to the 4 other condi’s he stacked on u ill gladly duel u if u wanna talk kitten and ill crush u. cuz necros are pretty simple if there not cheese running perplex and even with perplex necros have very little stun and daze so it would be pretty useless and just the fact that u didnt beat him shows u have no right to even call me out little man when u grow a pair let me know cuz ill sit u down on my mes war and thief funny part of ur post is i never died to a shatter mes so i probs killed u alot this week cuz i did fight alot of shatter mesmers lol most of hod and SF know who i am i was from nsp and also ur coming at me yet u cant beat a condi bomb necro? once they let out all there condi burst they are just a sitting duck just pop null field and clean it up and i do believe i never said i had problem with condi builds unless u add perplexity to it cuz if ur smart about the runes ur not just going off conf ur going off all the other condi’s u can stack like burning,bleeding,torment and on top of that the stunlock spam and easily stacked conf from perplexity and ill gladly hunt u down what guild are u from? ill make sure to camp u like i do to everyone else that talks kitten on these forums im over here talking about perplexity being op stacked with other condi’s and u cant even handle a condi necro u add perplexity to any class that can stack condi’s easily and that conf makes u a sitting duck to all the other condi dmg sitting on u. i love how u still come at my D cuz i said null field not arcane thievery and perplexity every skill u use can be rupted causeing 5 stacks of conf each time and there stuns have less of a cd then null field or arcane thievery, ill make sure i got one of my buds hunt u down while im at work and if u lose to him dont even bother to hit me up cuz im training him to become better u lose to him u will deff lose to me and he will tell u that after he stomps u several times. and ur still avoiding the fact that i asked u wat guild ur from and i bet u were one of the 5+ sf that tryed to jump me just now in gombl just to get trolled after 2 of u ran from me 1v2 funny thing is i dont even main mesmer, ill make sure when i come back from work ill kill u with my mes thief and war and i will change to my condi warrior build just for u. im not in the mood to hunt someone down that could be running the other direction if u wanna duel meet me at the eb jp around 9-10pm

I’ve made this into a wordle.

Two of us on GoM are participating in the Extra Life 25-Hour Gaming Marathon charity event this year. We kicked off at around 8 AM this morning and are playing non-stop until 8 AM tomorrow morning (plus the extra hour for the time change) to raise money for Children’s Miracle Network hospitals. I’m playing mostly GW2 (gotta get my mesmer to 80), plus some SMITE and a little bit of Divekick.

If you want to tune in and keep us company (and help us stay awake for the whole marathon!), check us out at:
www.twitch.tv/BanditoTV and www.twitch.tv/Tempestbrewer

If anybody else is participating in Extra Life, please post your info too!