Guild Wars 2

Pirlipat.2479:

MystiQ.9648:

Pirlipat.2479:

Ok so you want to forbid people to talk in their own language after that you prolly come up bashing them for not beeing able to use it perfectely. It would be better if they weren’t foreigners at all, right?

Whether they can use it perfectly is irrelevant aslong as they can get their point across in a language everyone can understand. I got no issues deciphering poorly written English, atleast they’re making an effort.
Public widespread chats are ment for everyone, not a select few that might speak another language than what is the standard on the very server you’re playing on.

I’m playing on EU server. EU got 23 official languages :p
To be honest I think it’s pretty sad that we even have to discuss this matter. To use several languages seems so natural for me.

I think there is a huge difference between people excluding others from the conversation and using another language. Of course if people are using the map-chat to make it their virtual living room it can get annoying if it’s going on for a long time. But thats not a matter of the language. You can perfectly well exclude others from a convo you are having simply by using references others don’t know and make it clear that others aren’t welcome to jump in.

Thats not really polite it’s the “people on the bus phenomenon” yelling at each other and making others listening without including them. Sure this is not cool for anyone. But I would never mind a convo I don’t understand which is going on for a few minutes until they use whisper or whatever. So it’s rather a matter of the dose and not of the fact itself.

It might be different if there is a server population that is speaking a certain language and dominating the chat while excluding the rest who is not able to speak this.
But to be honest on my server people barely speak at all. And bashing someone for not using the “right” language will only make people shutting themself out from a community that’s not welcoming them.

And to shout someone down for using a language that you can not understand in the name of politeness is not really polite either.

Edit: I’m refering to the example the TO gave and don’t say you actually do.^^

Well, EU might have 23 official languages. Imo, the server does not. Just as you speak German on German servers and French on French ones you should speak English on a EU server in a widespread general chat, truth be told it’s the norm one should follow. There are ofcourse exceptions to this rule, sadly. Numerous games you’ll find servers beeing taken over by non English speaking players (and boy, I’ll tell you, they’re far cruder than we are. Yes I am refering to you Mr. Polak.) while shutting the English speaking ones out. And then the roles are reversed.
I’m not too concerned with beeing excluded from the conversation. Hell they can talk Pokemon all day in map chat for all I care, aslong as it’s in English. Whatever they may be talking about wouldn’t interest me the slightest whatever language they’re speaking in, I just find it bloody irritating and distracting having gibberish cluttering my chat.

The Virtual living room scenario you mention is exactly what I am going on about. While yes, the Guild recruitment posts are equally irritating it’s a minor distraction in comparison.

I don’t shout em off as you say either (I know you aren’t refering to me with that comment). Just silently sit by while others do it instead, contributing to the shout fest would be spam, which is just as annoying.
If as you say people shut themselves out from a English community because they don’t speak English themselves, I don’t see the problem, if they can’t speak it then they can’t be part of that community. Also there are several guilds out there for these people, a simple google search, which most should be able to do without much trouble would allow you to speak whatever language you’re comfortable with.

Pirlipat.2479:

Ok so you want to forbid people to talk in their own language after that you prolly come up bashing them for not beeing able to use it perfectely. It would be better if they weren’t foreigners at all, right?

Whether they can use it perfectly is irrelevant aslong as they can get their point across in a language everyone can understand. I got no issues deciphering poorly written English, atleast they’re making an effort.
Public widespread chats are ment for everyone, not a select few that might speak another language than what is the standard on the very server you’re playing on.

I get extremely annoyed when people are advertising their guild or even speaking randomly in another language than English on a EU server in a public widespread channel.
If you’re advertising a foreign language guild you can still write the darn thing in English.
Yes, it is common courtesy, no we won’t join your guild regardless because we can’t understand it, but whats random gibberish in our eyes are bloody distracting when it pops up in the chat. Add a small phrase in whatever language you want at the end if you must, but keep the core body in plain English.

Talking in a foreign language in General chat however I don’t want in any way. If you can’t understand or write it well sorry, that’s your issue not ours. Go watch some telly, read some books, everyone have a basic understanding of English, go expand on it.
Chances are if you have a question, you’ll maybe have one person that speaks the same language that’s willing to answer you.
You’ll be better off with google translate followed by a google search.

Ouroboros.5076:

I’d say Kralkatorrik first. There’s already a door (closed atm) next to Ascalon to go south, in the Crystal Desert where I think it is now. After the story Destiny’s Edge is reunited, so it would be logical that they would seek revenge in hunting down Kralkatorrik ASAP.

Destiny’s Edge might have a grudge match. The Pact however I sincerely doubt give half a “kitten” about their grudges. The Pact already have a pretty large garrison dealing with Jormags minions.
Remember, it’s the Pact that’s the real story, Destiny’s Edge is merely a bi-story to fill in the dungeons.

Lutinz.6915:

Its worth pointing out there are probably 6 dragons in total.

And how is this likely?

Jormag. He’s the most prominent in the story thus far compared to the other Dragons.
Kralkatorrik after that, then Primordus and lastly Deep Sea Dragon.
We’re not gonna see an expansions for each Dragon, as such some of these might be introduced in patches. Jormag for instance I believe will be patched in. And Primordus would and should be an expansion as I expect there to be Dwarves and alot of em.
So my guess is based on what’s more likely to be patched in rather than an expansion.
Could be Jormag → Primordus → Kralkatorrik → Deep Sea Dragon too if we’re going by a Patch → Expansion → Patch → Expansion kind of thought.

Chantry of Secrets is the Order of Shadows hideout. It’s in the zone directly south of Lion’s Arch on a itty bitty island looking thing. There’s a skillpoint at the entrance of the cave.

Right so. I’m on the Storyline Quest called Ships of the Line, and I’ve got a bug, yippey!
It’s on the step “Lead Zott to the remaining siege weapons.”

I’m on the third siege weapon and he won’t do his thingy. Just keeps following me around, actually, that’s not true, he keeps following Inkblood, which is following me. I got the popup and told him to “do his thang”, however I was in combat at the time, so that might be it. Been, oh. I don’t know 20minutes or so now standing next to the siege weapon to see if it updates. I’ve tried leading the group, far, faaar away from the weapon and moved back to see it that reset him, but no joy.
I’ll restart the mission now, that might help. But I gotta tell you, it’s a huge mission, and not much fun.

Would it be too much to ask for that the game actually saved the quest at certain checkpoints, so that if one thing goes to kitten, you don’t have to start all over again? This ain’t the first time either.

Well, I believe that the general consensus when dealing with playable races is that they have to walk on two legs. Not 4 legs and a pair of arms, not slide around and don’t “skip” or jump to get around.
That doesn’t really leave many additional races to mess around with.
Some mentioned Dwarves, but. Newsflash: They’re all dead (kinda.. spoooilers)
Skritt would fit into the general consensus, however. Skritt are about as intelligent as a trained Rat, their intelligence might increase when there’s more of them in the same place. But, would a lone Skritt really fit in? Only way I’d see this remotely fit in is to control a group of 20 skritts at once, which sadly, wouldn’t work.
Quaggans somewhat fit it. However, their body shape and postures are just abit too weird, and to me. They’re not exactly heroic lookin’.

What I think would work nicely however, are Kodans and Tengus.
Largos could also work quite nicely (and be really cool), however. Due to their, extreme stealthy nature I don’t think it would really fit in. Stealth in itself is fine, but staying invisible indefinetly is a balance issue. Compromise ofcourse always works, but then that wouldn’t hold true to lore.

salameri.3768:

Mystiq out of curiosity what did you bind your element changes to? Also I am level 17 and putting alot of points into air for the crit and precision and it works well so far but I have points in fire to for power. After 20 I will probably do what shockwave said and go into arcane more and just change as I see needed as I am playing.

I got a Razer Naga mouse, so I’ve got my attunments bound to 1, 3, 4 and 6 on that.
Unless you got one of those I see no other option that to fiddle around with bindings on the keyboard in one way or another. For instance rebinding attunments to 1 through 4 and attacks to other keys which are in close proximity like R, T, F etc. Some people use the Q and E buttons for attacks instead of the usual default movement.
I also got a Logitech G-series keyboard so I got 3 extra buttons in close proximity to my pinky finger. As an Elementalist, alot of buttons really are a thing of beauty, and in my opinion a must.

Lvl 17 eh, my that’s low.
Just a tip if you intend to follow my dagger writeup (ofcourse you’re free to make changes).
The Cantrips at that low level isn’t really necessary, altough Lightning Flash is always usefull for the mobility. Glyph of Storms and Sigil of Fire are good contenders while leveling,
As such, I’d leave the traits that gives boons from cantrips to last.
I’d start with getting Arcana to 10, Air to 10, Earth to 10 and Fire to 15. Then Arcana to 15, Water to 10, Fire to 20 and lastly Arcana to 20. Which should give you the most efficiency until you can get everything out of the Cantrips. Arcana is a must for Attunment switching, it also increases the duration of your boons, which that build was all about.

DaedalusDragon.3754:

MystiQ.9648:

Traits.
I believe the tooltips are quite self explanatory. I’ll point out a few things though.
Arcane Power: Windborne dagger which gives you 15% more movement speed with daggers (Again, I like this because of the shoddy out of combat run speed) can be substituted with something else if run speed isn’t something you’re concerned with, Renewing Stamina might be nice if you dodge alot. I don’t really have the need to.
Zephyr’s Boon and Elemental Shielding, these add boons when applying an Aura, with daggers you got two auras, one in Water attunment and one in Air attunment. I got those two on “auto attack” which means they trigger as soon as I drop into that attunment and keep triggering once they go off cooldown (if still in that attunment)
They’re also nice when you want to travel faster, as Zephyr’s Boon adds swiftness when applying an aura. You can keep this buff going indefinetly by switching back and forth.

As for gear. I’m ofcourse level 80. But I’ve got Power/Precision/Critical Damage in my armor pieces and Power/Vitality/Critical Damage in my Jewelry. But anything really will do, it doesn’t focus much on one thing or another, but I like crits so that’s what I went for.
Still fiddling around with Runes at the moment though. But Vitality and/or Toughness wouldn’t be a bad bet considering how squishy elementalists are, but not necessary unless you get into a bind.

For Sigils I like Sigil of Battle, which gives might when you switch weapons. (Attunments count as weapon swaps). For the 2nd one I’m still undecided and will have to test out a few I got my eye on at the moment. Currently running with Sigil of Luck, which gives magic find when you kill something. But that’s not really usefull in a combat setting.

Anyways. beeing low level you obviously can’t get all of these trait points yet.
I can help you choose a few things to start with, but then I’m gonna need to know your level.

(Had to put this in two posts, was appearently way too long)

You mean, the weapon switching sigils actually do something for elementalists??!!!!!!!!

mind = blown. I wish that was in the description. Though I guess I have come to expect incredibly bad descriptions in GW2.

It used to atleast. To tell you the truth, I haven’t checked if it’s intentional or it it even works anymore for the last couple of weeks. I kinda started doubting when writing, but I wasn’t ingame to actually check.

I ran ingame to check now to be absolutely sure, and yes, it does work. It does have a cooldown however, so you can’t just keep changing attunments to stack it up. Not sure what that Cooldown is.

EDIT: without timing, the cooldown is atleast shorter than the duration, so in theory, you can pretty much keep stacking this aslong as you never leave combat for too long.

Pinkerton.5643:

MystiQ.9648:

Pinkerton.5643:

DaedalusDragon.3754:

If you are using cantrips to gain stacks of might, you are doing it wrong. They have long cooldowns and shouldn’t be used like that.

The difference between me fighting at close range and anybody else fighting at close range is that they are wearing armor made of mithril (or w/e, i’m no crafting expert) and mine is made of someones old cloth straps that I fashioned to cover myself.

No, you don’t use cantrips for the sole purpose of gaining might stacks. I’m not talking about a might stacking build. But every time I hit 50% health, I get stability, protection, AND 3 stacks of might. how is that not awesome? Or every time somebody tries to run away from my churning earth, I appear right next to them again with 3 stacks of might…and then….BOOM. Or if I get loaded down with conditions, I burn everyone in the area, lose three of them, and gain 3 stacks of might.

And armor value isn’t that important. The main advantage that some of them have over you is a bigger health pool (and that’s not all of them). You have to use your defensive skills at the right times and you have to get good at dodging. That’s true for ever profession. And it works just as well for elementalist.

Sounds to me we got the exact same build. ‘cept I don’t focus on Toughness and rather went all out precision and power with a tad vitality snuck in, ofcourse this makes me squishy, but I still do less damage in a burst than what any “melee” class does. Toughness might be something to try out.

I’m loving the cantrip thing btw, imo there really aren’t any other signets that compare.
I still get facerolled by guardians though.

Really? I don’t really have problems with guardians. The thing I have the most trouble with is hundred blades from gsword warriors. It’s high damage and there’s not much warning. It’s tough to see it coming.

Well, the Guardian Fights are usually long and I tend to be the one ending up dead. Hence why I find them to be problematic.

When facing Greatsword Warriors that blade thing isn’t really a problem, as I’d be dead. You don’t worry when you’re dead.

Basicly, I really can’t take down anything else than other Elementalists solo, and the occasional Necro, Ranger and non greatsword wielding Warrior.
I haven’t PvP’d much though as this whole ordeal is abit disheartening and I still got Zones to do. But might give the toughness stack a shot.

Traits.
I believe the tooltips are quite self explanatory. I’ll point out a few things though.
Arcane Power: Windborne dagger which gives you 15% more movement speed with daggers (Again, I like this because of the shoddy out of combat run speed) can be substituted with something else if run speed isn’t something you’re concerned with, Renewing Stamina might be nice if you dodge alot. I don’t really have the need to.
Zephyr’s Boon and Elemental Shielding, these add boons when applying an Aura, with daggers you got two auras, one in Water attunment and one in Air attunment. I got those two on “auto attack” which means they trigger as soon as I drop into that attunment and keep triggering once they go off cooldown (if still in that attunment)
They’re also nice when you want to travel faster, as Zephyr’s Boon adds swiftness when applying an aura. You can keep this buff going indefinetly by switching back and forth.

As for gear. I’m ofcourse level 80. But I’ve got Power/Precision/Critical Damage in my armor pieces and Power/Vitality/Critical Damage in my Jewelry. But anything really will do, it doesn’t focus much on one thing or another, but I like crits so that’s what I went for.
Still fiddling around with Runes at the moment though. But Vitality and/or Toughness wouldn’t be a bad bet considering how squishy elementalists are, but not necessary unless you get into a bind.

For Sigils I like Sigil of Battle, which gives might when you switch weapons. (Attunments count as weapon swaps). For the 2nd one I’m still undecided and will have to test out a few I got my eye on at the moment. Currently running with Sigil of Luck, which gives magic find when you kill something. But that’s not really usefull in a combat setting.

Anyways. beeing low level you obviously can’t get all of these trait points yet.
I can help you choose a few things to start with, but then I’m gonna need to know your level.

(Had to put this in two posts, was appearently way too long)

Well. I’m not ingame atm sadly, so can’t be completely accurate.
I started off with Staff like most do. And while that is fine when you’re running with alot of people during an event, beeing out on your own it got tricky, long cast times and the AoEs really didn’t work as ye had to kite all the time, and ended up just running in circle spamming fireballs.

However, around lvl 60ish i switched to dual daggers, and oh my, it’s a whole new world. Things die much quicker, you can take on more mobs, you’ve got way more mobility. However, Elementalists beeing rather squishy don’t survive well against alot of mobs. I don’t find it much of an issue due to the mobility and haste of which you can kill mobs, but. If you pull one too many, or pick up a ranged fella in addition to all those melee guys pounding you. you’re often in for Downed – Rally marathon. Which is fine, as you don’t always die.

The setup I’d use depends on your level. but here are some overall pointers.
It’s based mostly around boons. There’s just something with seeing all that stuff on your UI that just appeals to me. It also adds in alittle damage and alittle protection to offset the squishyness and relatively poor damage of the elementalist. Keep in mind, it’s still rather poor.
You’ll also have to switch between attunments alot. But this is something you have to do regardless if you’re gonna play elementalist on a decent level. Helps to rebind the keys to something easier and faster to reach. Fumbling while playing this way will lead to your death.
Here’s a link to the build: http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.1.1.0.13.0.0.0.0.0.3.13.11.10.24.0.0.0.4.6.0.16.0.0.35.0.0.48.0.0.65.69.0.20.10.10.10.20

Weapons: Dual Daggers

Healing Signet: Signet of Restoration. I find the passive healing of this to be rather nice for leveling. In this build I get hit rarely and that passive healing takes care of most of it before I am hit again. There is a stronger heal, which also gives a boon based on your attunment, but I don’t find it as good as this passive heal for PvE.

Signet 1: Signet of Air, just got this for the passive movement increase as I hate running slow when out of combat. Could substitute this with pretty much any other skill. Arcane Shield is quite nice for that extra survivability when you’re in a bind, the Firestorm is also great(somehow not present on that site), especially when you’re doing an event and there’s alot of mobs, which gives you a few hits on more mobs causing you to get more loot. It’s also rather nice for when you’ve pulled a few mobs and can kite em around in the relatively small AoE circle this provides. Arcane wave is purely straight up point blank AoE around you. I don’t use it much as I prefer the Firestorm for it’s AoE damage instead, altough it has a higher cooldown. You can use anything you want in this slot however.

Signet 2: Armor of Earth, this is a Cantrip, as you can see by the traits we get boons from using cantrips. Armor of earth itself also grant boons. Stability which makes you immune to CC effects, and protection which decreases your damage taken by 33%. Both of these lasts 8 seconds and Armor of earth is on a 90 second timer, use the skill wisely.

Signet 3: Lightning Flash. This is a teleport. While in itself not so good damage wise, it offers 3 things. 1. It’s a cantrip which in turn gives us boons from the traits we’ve picked. 2, it offers some mobility when you have to get the heck out of there. and 3. It can be used while charging Churning Earth. Churning earth has a rather large cast time and mobs will pummel you while charging. However, first. Knock the enemies down with the knockdown thingy I can’t remember the name of, it’s on 4 (earth attunment ofcourse), then start casting Churning Earth, when the mobs get up use Lightning Flash to teleport away (not too far), The mobs should now chase you but wouldn’t be able to catch up before Churning Earth is done casting, which leads to massive damage.

Elite Signet: Elementalists have a rather crappy selection of elite signets. I quite like the Glyph of Elementals which summons an Elemental depending on your attunment, most notably the Elemental you get in Water attunment which heals. Elite skills also vary with race so might be that your race has something better you could put in it. Play around with it abit if you can and see if you can find one you like.

Pinkerton.5643:

DaedalusDragon.3754:

If you are using cantrips to gain stacks of might, you are doing it wrong. They have long cooldowns and shouldn’t be used like that.

The difference between me fighting at close range and anybody else fighting at close range is that they are wearing armor made of mithril (or w/e, i’m no crafting expert) and mine is made of someones old cloth straps that I fashioned to cover myself.

No, you don’t use cantrips for the sole purpose of gaining might stacks. I’m not talking about a might stacking build. But every time I hit 50% health, I get stability, protection, AND 3 stacks of might. how is that not awesome? Or every time somebody tries to run away from my churning earth, I appear right next to them again with 3 stacks of might…and then….BOOM. Or if I get loaded down with conditions, I burn everyone in the area, lose three of them, and gain 3 stacks of might.

And armor value isn’t that important. The main advantage that some of them have over you is a bigger health pool (and that’s not all of them). You have to use your defensive skills at the right times and you have to get good at dodging. That’s true for ever profession. And it works just as well for elementalist.

Sounds to me we got the exact same build. ‘cept I don’t focus on Toughness and rather went all out precision and power with a tad vitality snuck in, ofcourse this makes me squishy, but I still do less damage in a burst than what any “melee” class does. Toughness might be something to try out.

I’m loving the cantrip thing btw, imo there really aren’t any other signets that compare.
I still get facerolled by guardians though.

To the OP. Because we wanted to play one?

Actually I find Elementalist rather fun to play. I run around with Daggers while solo. While yes, that means I’m insanely squishy and I do rather poor damage, it’s a buttload of fun. And with the right movements you’re able to stay alive for a decent amount of time. It’s still very much subpar to anything else though. And it does not work in PvP.
Use my staff for group stuff, lets me hang back and drop combo fields all day, which is quite nice. Also as it has alot of AoE it’s more loot =p.

For PvP the only thing I’ve found to be half usefull is follow the zerg with a staff and drop AoE on walls. Other than that Elementalist is utter useless.

Logged in today and I noticed I had that part of the Achievement all done.
How and when I got it is beyond me as I’ve died a few times over the last few days.
As a note. Currently lvl 65, was 58 when I logged in this morning. So It’s appearently possible when ye’re mid level.

Login Screen had me 2 lvls lower than the level I originally was. But once logged I logged in it seems to be allright. Thankfully.