Guild Wars 2

sorrow.2364:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Current-State/first

Thank you! I did not see this thread.

Hello! About 4 to 5 months ago I posted on the forums asking what was “wrong” with the necromancer. I can’t find the original thread, but basically I got:

1) Death Shroud underpowered
2) Minion AI is awful
3) Various bugs throughout the entire profession

I’m trying to get back into the game because it’s awesome! I’ve read the last few patch notes and it seems they addressed at least the underpoweredness of Death Shroud and some of the skills. Am I interpreting these changes right? Are necromancers better off now than they were 4 months ago?

Thanks for your responses =)

Kravick.4906:

John Peters. Hes a GW2 developer. Came to these forums and basically told everyone to “L2P” regarding using death shroud. The backlash was… huge. We haven’t really seen a dev post since.

That’s the most stupid thing I ever heard.. Do you have a permalink to the post?

Stupid because you’re not a child and even if people are blowing you up and saying you’re wrong, you should either A) Prove it right Admit you may be wrong or C) Address the other concerns and put this on the back burner.

So what, is the Necromancer forums a free for all now? I’ve been reading the patch notes and there really aren’t THAT many things for Necromancers, taking all of this conversation into consideration.

Hahaha. Thanks for attempting to research! I don’t mind if the graphics look like mud .. SimCity, it looks like I’m playing the equivalent of Ocarina of Time cardboard edition. I play games for the mechanics. Unfortunately I feel as though the lag would make it feel like I’m playing a 1900’s silent film =(

I can’t play that much while at school which is a major reason I’m getting feedback from the community. Since I can’t play much, it is nice to hear the different opinions of builds and play styles being discussed here because like I said before, it gives me educated options when I begin to flesh out my build!

I also like how I’m not the only person whose autocorrect turned a word into “kitten”.

Someone mentioned a guy on the forum who was “lyynched” and now we’re on our own.. Is he a mod? What exactly happened?

It really does seem like Necromancers are kind of kitten when it comes to abilities, are there ways of countering the poor minion AI or anything like that?

I built my own PC too haha. GW2 is the first game I can’t play on Ultra settings (I had to turn a couple of them down to high) but I haven’t updated it in years.

I do feel like the particle effects would destroy my laptop

Has there been any official comment on Necromancers and potential changes? All over the forums are complaints, and just from reading this thread it seems a lot of people agree on many issues with the main disagreements being on play style .. I’ve read that their abilities don’t really synergize well on multiple websites, not just the forums here and with what Monoman said, it seems to be a consensus

<3 s’all good, maybe I just suck at typed humor =(

Notsure.7028:

I dont see that machine playing the game, but why would you choose to play at school instead of learn? That makes no sense.

That laptop packs a lot of punch – if all you have is a Vic 20, otherwise that laptop is worthless as a gaming rig. And I mean completely worthless.

It’s not a “gaming rig” .. and I was joking when I said play instead of learn, I’m in my fifth year on my second degree and even I need a bit of downtime every so often. This laptop can play Civ V and SimCity which is nice with no terrible lag. I also can play LoL pretty well on decent settings even though that game isn’t as intense.

I never said it was a gaming rig .. but man you completely missed the humor in my post along with the curiosity to see if anyone else was playing on a not-so-powerful computer. I highly doubt it can play the game but what’s the harm in trying? and what’s the harm in taking a break every so often from studying?

I’m thinking about downloading this game for my ASUS x401u so I can play instead of study at school.

https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/X401U/

I highly doubt it’ll even run the game. But maybe I’ll get lucky, this laptop packs a lot of punch. What are you low enders running your game on?

I read every post! If someone writes up a lengthy reply, I make sure to read it all because you took the time to type it. I played an inquisitor so I haven’t read your guides.

I’ll watch the podcasts! I couldn’t find anything too useful on YouTube anyway, someone here was dead on- you only see PvP when the opponents are outnumbered or preoccupied. How do most people play their necros? I’m going to play around like first suggested to find what I like, but I enjoy reading other builds so that I may add my own little twists to it. Sort of how I do with LoL.

Terok.7315:

Navani.5281:

Thanks for taking the time to reply guys!

I was thinking of going minion master with an emphasis on survival. Does that sound viable? I’ve always been a fan of having a pet, I guess because my first MMO character was a Warlock in WoW =p

I’m most recently coming from SWTOR which I really really enjoy, but the emphasis on buying things is turning me off so I purchased this instead (Because they wanted me to buy things, I bought something else .. go figure)

While a bit off topic, I just wanted to reinforce your decision to make the exodus. GW2 has done a really good job at implementing it’s F2P system. You’re not asked to pay for such ridculous crap like UI functions and basic game content. The gem shop is entirely focused on cosmetic gear and some buff items. I’ve been watching SWTOR’s implementation of its cash shop and it’s pretty offensive.

Anyway, while minions have AI troubles and their survivability is poor in content like dungeons (where bosses send out tons of AOE and do it alot), they’re fairly decent open world skills. The necromancer itself is a very stalwart tanker, usually the last man standing if you know what you’re doing.

Has the minion AI been addressed more specifically by the devs? I haven’t read anything up on that but I feel like it’s something that should be prioritized since it’s one of the necro’s most distinguishable features. I’ve always liked the idea of being a tanky clothy caster so that’s another reason I chose Necro as my first class.

SWTOR I actually love, don’t get me wrong.. I really enjoy the plots and the voice acting and cut scenes but you’re right, it almost is offensive how in-your-face it all is. They should’ve followed the Guild Wars model in keeping the initial cost relatively high. Anyway, I’m on GW2 now and I’m pretty excited

I wouldn’t mind an engineer. One thing that seems constant is that Necromancers are fun. I really wanted to do MM but I’ve seen power builds and they do look fun too.

Thanks again for all the replies. I learned a lot from reading this thread about pros and cons, and the arguments all bring out good points. I also plan on chopping my legs off and getting prosthetics.

Should I reroll a Mesmer? One thing I dislike is playing a class that’s overplayed, and I thought Mesmers are the third least played. I love casting and I’m having fun with my Necro, but I don’t want to have trouble both PvPing and running dungeons at 80.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

So what IS the role of a Necro endgame then? If it’s sort of in the middle, is there one that I should lean towards?

Thanks for taking the time to reply guys!

I was thinking of going minion master with an emphasis on survival. Does that sound viable? I’ve always been a fan of having a pet, I guess because my first MMO character was a Warlock in WoW =p

I’m most recently coming from SWTOR which I really really enjoy, but the emphasis on buying things is turning me off so I purchased this instead (Because they wanted me to buy things, I bought something else .. go figure)

Hello! I’m new to GW2 (I bought GW when it first came out and I’ve played MMOs for years) and I want to try a necromancer because that’s part of what I played in the original. I’ve seen many things around the web about necromancers being broken, such as poor minion AI, but I haven’t really seen other reasons why they’re bad.

Are they a common class? What are some of the main issues and how do people work around them?

Thanks =)