Yojack’s “min/max” (dumbest name ever since there is no comparisons or damage meters) is a fairly poor output pve build. Sword is lower base damage as it relies on condition damage to beef it up, has no vulnerability, no weakness, and if someone else in group is also condition damage it still only allows a single stack up to a certain value .
I would question anyone trying to main a war horn in group dungeon play because the damage sucks and the war horn abilities don’t do much for pve ( consider your 2,3,4,5 abilities all offer little value in a dungeon where you need damage)
That being said, you’d probably do significantly more damage standing back and using your rifle… and stay safer while doing it.
I agree about the bleeding being an issue if you got others in the group which stacks bleeding, but this is only on some bosses.
If I get into a group with a ranger (shortbow) or thief, and when we come to a boss, I usually swap to an axe not to get that overkill. If you think that horn is a useless tool, then I will have to tell you to reconsider it, because the horn is there mainly to support the team and help them survive. Swiftness/vigor for allies and weakness for mobs isn’t anything you take for granted, or do you?
As someone else mentioned; not everyone in the group can be pure dps, because the group will most likely fail then. Someone need to support them in order for them to do as much damage as possible. Now when that is said, my damage isn’t top high, but acceptable.
Im running the min/max build with sword/warhorn and rifle in my setup.
Im using shouts to heal and the horn to help the group with speed and the weakness on the mobs which make them hit much less.
I got full exotics and my damage is more than good with my bleeds ticking for 130 per tick and slashing 800/800/2k.
I got kicked out of a group today by a 5 signet warrior because he thought I was a noob with a “Sword/horn” as my mainsetup.
I confronted him and told him that I was much more useful for the group than him, with my reasons “I support my group, you don’t.” and “A dead man doesnt do anything useful in a group” and then I got kicked right afterwards.
I think this is just silly. Well, anyways. This is my first time getting kicked out, and I’ve hard to believe I meet someone more ignorant and goodthinking about himself than that guy. So bad luck I guess..
Edit: Not to mention 100% endurance regen which the horn gives.