Guild Wars 2

Leo G.4501:

Raving Nighteyes.6145:

You are supporting the behaviour though, and that is exactly what is bothering me.

His actions isn’t supporting the [alt swapping] behavior though and mainly aimed at those that do so without permission.

Also, I’d assume he wouldn’t turn his dev tag on when doing so, so he can do what he wants in-game so long as it doesn’t violate the TOS. As for how one presents themselves as far as being a dev goes, sometimes making a stand beyond the quick-fix of kicking gets the point across better. He didn’t say he does so all the time, just some of the time when people don’t ask permission of the team. That a dev feels it’s in poor taste to swap to begin with is good to hear.

The behaviour that was bothering Rob was clearly not alt swapping, but being a burden/deadweight to the team by doing nothing (in his scenario a result from altswapping, but the cause of you being a burden should hardly matter, what matters is that you are being a deadweight).
I also stated in my post that acting that way in game is one thing, but posting about it here, where he does have a dev tag, another thing entirely.
I am actually astonished anyone would think that emoting/doing nothing is EVER a good way to solve a problem.
The main issue I have, as stated before, is that a dev is promoting undesired behaviour on the official forums. It is basically sending out the message: “it is ok to behave bad and ruin the game for 3 other players if 1 player does something you don’t like”.

JesseBensen.4817:

a disagreement becomes an argument when someone is incapable of just letting another person know your opinion on something, and instead feels the need to constantly attempt to justify it in an aggressive manner. Raving Nighteyes, everyone including rob understands what you are trying to say, and there is no reason to drag it out.

I have been civil throughout all my posts, I think you are confusing aggressive with assertive. I am not attempting to justify anything, I am pointing out that his behaviour was wrong, instead Rob nonchalantly brushes it aside as if it were no issue.
If Rob understands what I was/am trying to say, I think he is fully capable of sayng so himself.

I would agree with you if a scenario occurred in which Robert presented a valid reason for the way he acted and I refused to agree with him, instead choosing to argue with him. This scenario has not occurred as of right now though.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

I don’t much appreciate being used in such a way, and find the behavior rude to just shuffle the responsibility off on someone else while sitting on the sideline making other people carry the load. Especially when you’re fighting a boss who has an enrage mechanic at lower health, increasing his difficulty.

What you do, or do not appreciate is a matter that should only concern you, you are letting it affect 3 other players. Besides that, you are showing the exact behaviour you say to have a dislike for, you “shuffle the responsibility off on someone else while sitting on the sideline making other people carry the load.”. Mirroring somebody elses bad behaviour out of spite is naive, especially considering your position. I would also like to point out that there is a stark difference between displaying such behaviour in the game, and posting about it on the official forums basically encouraging it. You are doing the latter, which is, again, is hardly how a dev should act.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Typically we do end up kicking the person and restarting the final boss, and completing it.

Proving that your immature ritual of dancing and emoting around the althopper was not productive, and that you could best have skipped it altogether and gone straight to kicking the person.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

I’ve been kicked as well for not participating when people do those things, and that’s fine – that’s their choice, and they got the votes.

Yet again you prove my point, YOU also had the vote to kick that althopper, instead you would rather show the behaviour that gets YOU kicked.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Point being, if you don’t like the behavior, don’t support it. I don’t foresee us being able to stop the behavior from a developer perspective, but I’m a designer and not a coder.

You are supporting the behaviour though, and that is exactly what is bothering me. Intentional or not, you are promoting being a deadweight when it suits you, or when you disagree with the current situation.
You might not be able to stop the behaviour, but you can stop encouraging it, it is irrelevant wether you are a coder, programmer or tester. You decided to post here, you carry a certain responsibility when you post here as dev. you failed that responsibility.

What you said, was wrong and should have been left out of your post entirely, it is debatable if it was intentional or not, but the way you posted it, is clearly wrong.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Levistis.8356:

Is switching to an alt at the end of a dungeon an exploit?

currently no – it’s just rude if you don’t tell your party first and act as dead weight in the final fight. People do it to level up their lower characters, because it’s a big burst of exp for dungeon completion.

This has happened to me a few times when playing, and usually from someone who doesn’t tell the party, and swap characters at like 25% boss HP. They bring in some level 20 character and stand off to the side while the 4 of us fight a boss. I typically respond by not fighting and just standing around them doing emotes and jumping, or trying to kite the boss into them if they are close enough to the encounter

So basically you resort to the style of play you discourage your player base from doing; childish nonconstructive behaviour, just to get your own back at someone.
Never mind that by showing such behaviour you are just as bad as him
Never mind that by showing such behaviour you are letting the remaining 3 players down just so you can “have revenge”.
Why can’t you be mature about it? Yes, of course it is annoying, but “(…) just standing around them doing emotes and jumping (…)” isn’t going to change the fact, and it is most certainly not going to help anyone.
Why can’t you just let the matter be, fight the boss with 4 people, most likely defeat him and carry on.
Or, even better, kick him, and invite somebody else to join you. I mean, for crying out loud, you left the possibility to switch to alts in the game, your behaviour is punishing your entire group, because a single person used a feature within the game.
Should I also run around and use emotes when somebody switches to a build that is “bad”, imagine a warrior switches to longbow because he thinks it is fun to play with, lets emote around him as well shall we? I mean, longbow warrior is contributing about as much as a lvl 20 character in the current build of the game…
I have to say, I am astonished that a dev would behave in such a way, let alone post about it and nearly encouraging the act. You should be ashamed, especially considering that, as I said before, your very own team discourages such acts from the community.
I would like to see a deletion of your original statement, but I doubt this will happen. All I can say is, that I am disappointed in the way you represent your company.