Guild Wars 2

Lishtenbird.2814:

To make it worse, there are enough things which “force” people who do not want to do something do it:

• Map completion in PvP area – complained about since release.
• Rank requirement for Gift of Battle.
• Jumping puzzles in PvP area.
• Mistforged weapons for WvW Tournaments.
• PvP backpack and the upcoming PvP armour skins.

Pristine Fractal Relics are just yet another thing in the row, but this time it’s WvW crowd QQing about doing the “hard” content they “despise” for 5 (!) times at lowest level (or buy them from dungeon sellers). We, PvE scrubs, simply do not feel that this request is equal in terms of difficulty, while it should. Want the reward? Go and do the content like everyone else does! …or get rid of all the other limitations other people are forced to face first.

Really, Lishtenbird, if you think the examples that you listed is bad ideas in the game, open a thread to promote the change of the game. If you think they are acceptable, then you should not use them as your argument.

And I am glad that you are using “get rid of all the other LIMITATIONS other people are FORCED to face” as your statement.

Your like suffer, that’s your choice, why force others to suffer too?

Someone said 5 fractal runs is official requirement, just do it.
I will say, some people think that rules are set by people who rules them, but some people think that rules are set by people who being ruled.

Someone said people are asking “I want COF armor but don’t want to do COF”, but people are saying “you need to do COF + 5 fractal runs to get COF armor” is bad idea.

Someone said people are QQ in the forum to avoid puting effort to gain reward.
I will say, people are willing to put effort but in an enjoyable way or at least not in a hated way.
Although i am poor in vocabulary, I will use the word “advocate” to replace QQ. People are just voice out what they think is better, discuss in forum and hope for a improvement in the future.

Someone said anet are spoiling players if they make some alt way to gain the reward.
I will say, forcing people to obey the unreasonable “offical requirement” is spoiling anet.

Someone said not everything can be acquired in a way you like, that’s how an MMO works. It has to please EVERYONE, not only YOU.
But provide alt ways to gain the reward can please more people, who is being displeased? Is there some people are being displeased because more people are being pleased?

Someone give up fighting for the thing that they can’t get so they just against people who still fighting for it? The world is suck, admit it? I don’t buy this. I think the world can be beautiful, don’t keep yourself in dark, you can do something constructive.

Lishtenbird.2814:

What’s the difference between requiring to do jumping puzzles, mini dungeons, to get ascended mats from bosses/dungeons/temples, and FoTM? Ascended equipment is closely connected to Fractals – only it can receive agony infusions. With the same logic, you should never step out of Dry Top to get that reward, but you do.

Again, Lishtenbird, The LS is not only happen in Dry Top, but Tyria. I don’t know how you enjoy the story or just repeat dungeon and FoTM all day, but as i understand, the shadow of dragon is not attacking Pale Tree in Dry Top, Belinda Delaqua is not die in Dry Top, the minions of Mordremoth had already reach the Charr, etc. so don’t keep saying that stay in Dry Top, it is only a new map that introduced to players as the story continue and the story are not stay in Dry Top.

Please don’t misunderstand that we don’t like the way to get the backpiece because we can’t achieve something. i believe that most people do not have problem to finish FoTM. It is not that elite that people can finish FoTM. So please stop giving the so call “advice” to people to finish the FoTM, this is not what we are talking about.

I respect you like FoTM, I would like you to respect people who don’t enjoy it. I ran FoTM before, I had crafted the fractal capacitor backpiece and I left later because I don’t enjoy it. If anet want to use the LS to lead us back to fractals, please at least give us a story line that related to it.

we are not asking for remove the way to get mists stone from fractals but also give an alt way for people to achieve the LS.

If you would like to let other people know that you are a FoTM player to build up your self esteem, just put on your fractal capacitor and weapon skin. if you don’t like the old fractal backpiece, you can ask anet to release a new one, I will fully support you, but please leave the LS back to story.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Ryan.4092:

I agree that effort is needed to get reward, but the backpiece is the reward of living story instead of FOTM. I just want a souvenir for the LS that I had participated, why force me to do FOTM.

With the same logic we can ask why we should go around Tyria to collect components and not around Dry Top only But since it’s not confined to the new zone, there’s just as much reason to include FoTM as open world jumping puzzles or mini dungeons.

At least there is some logic that you gain materials for the grow of the vine and the LS is about the Tyria not only Dry Top only. However, Pristine Fractal Relic is just the currency released to solve the problem that people complain about not getting ascended ring from RNG or rings for specific stats. I don’t have any feeling by buying the Mists Stone with some unrelated currency.

LS is great bacause you are participated in the story, but what is the story of FoTM to LS? I find no connection between them.

And yes, Pristine Fractal Relic is not difficult to get, but it is just no fun and no story in the process. What this make me feel is anet force players to do FoTM in a lazy way.

edit:
I even feel better if anet ask me to kill jade maw for its blood to feed the backpiece, instead of buying a mists stone with Pristine Fractal Relic.

Lishtenbird.2814:

If you want a specific reward, you have to do the job for it. Even if it means stepping outside of your comfort zone, whether you enjoy it or not. That’s why it’s called a reward – and a purely cosmetic one.

I grinded the WvW Zergaments for Mistforged skins even though I hate the toxic WvW community where no newbies are allowed (see what I did there?) and where opponents will even find ways to whisper you if you manage to kill somebody, or grinded WvW maps for the Gifts of Exploration and Obsidian Sanctum even though people actively enjoy grieving that JP, or grinded PvP reward track for the Balthazar backpack even though PvP community is even more toxic than WvW.

Why? Because I wanted these rewards. So if you want a reward for fighting Mordrem, step out of the WvW where you feel cosy and do what has to be done.

I agree that effort is needed to get reward, but the backpiece is the reward of living story instead of FOTM. I just want a souvenir for the LS that I had participated, why force me to do FOTM. I don’t even need a ascended backpiece, I just want that skin and Mawdrey II.

Hope the next LS reward give alternative ways to achieve.

I like the new radiant glove, but it seems can not coexist with my Juggernaut at this moment.

When I wear the radiant glove with juggernaut, my hand just disappeared.

i am sad