@everyone
if you think that you can accurately determine personal skill w solo queue, you can’t. definitely not in the current gw2 ranked queue. there is too much exploiting & afking for that. low pop doesn’t help either. furthermore w each player only being 1/5 of the team, & low pop causing a wide skill disparity, the accuracy only gets worse.
i can win a game because Chaith carried me. no reflection on my gunflame spam at all.
Chaith can lose his next game due to a salty necro who afks after he dies in the opening midfight.
that salty necro can win his next game because a player on his side payed 50g for a member of the opposing team to throw.see. look at these examples. what do these have to do w personal skill at all? like honestly, it’s hardly even a factor in these games.
a team of 5 fixes: afks, shoddy team composition, frustrating skill disparities, & discourages match manipulation. it also improves rotational skill, teamwork, & fosters positive social bonds.
sure, you can still get ‘carried by your team’ but that happens in solo queue too.
like humour me.
say i grab a pal of mine, Steve. he’s a really meh player. he likes bunker druid & fluctuates between silver & gold. not a great.
now say he gets teamed up w Chaith. Chaith is a great player, & if you’ve seen his streams you know he can carry hard. lets say he does. he wins 1v2s, rotates like a god, & shoves his function gyro so hard down the enemies throat it comes out the other side.
they win the game.awesome. you still with me? this is when it gets interesting.
see, we can all agree that this win is a reflection of Chaith’s skill, he carried he deserves it. but what about Steve, he didn’t carry, so does he deserve the win? is this a reflection of his skill?you, pro solo queue players, please answer?
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to rebut preemptively:
i am aware that there is another argument. that in solo queue Steve can’t make sure he’s with Chaith, he can’t ensure a carry. but in team queue he would be able to always play w Chaith. ergo solo queue is better.to reply:
we must take into account a few things. firstly bad matchmaking & afks. these both cause you to ‘unjustly’ lose rating. & going off the rebuttal, if you are carried then you don’t deserve the win, & it’s an unjust inflation.
take into account skill disparity, which means a lot of players will carry or be the weak link that throws the game. consider also how common afk players are.
this means, being carried, weak links, & afk players make up a sizeable amount of a lot of players games. so by our previous logic a large portion of solo queue games don’t actually reflect personal skill, more your luck of the draw w teams.so with a lot of games invalid for the purpose of determining skill solo queue isn’t looking too great.
two points in favour of team queue as far as skill representation goes:
lets suppose Chaith & Steve are on a team. one could say Chaith is carrying Steve, just as one could say Chaith is playing with a handicap. there are good arguments for both. but i would ask, seeing as carrying weak links happen in solo queue too, are these actually negative points for team queue, or are they just features of a 5v5 team game? i would think the latter.
now, the second & important point. Steve is going to get better. he is going to improve. why? well, because he’s playing a helpful high skill player, Chaith. they will talk in discord. in there they will discuss builds, plan rotations, & co-ordinate spikes & resses. Steve is going to learn a lot. he is going to improve at a much faster rate than he would in solo queue. soon Steve will be weaving around on his s/d bunker looking all frosty. he’s gonna become less of a liability to the team. Chaith will have to carry him less & less.so, you can see due to the faster pace of improvement in a team queue. the issue of carrying, & weak links is less pronounced. it actually creates a more skilled community & all but eliminates afk. seems ah, pretty a ok to me.
i feel the community just needs to be a little less lazy for 5v5 queue to work. only time can tell if that can be done. but to all those crying about their teams, dude team queue fixes that. don’t be such a child. take control.
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if anyone answers me rebutting with a post about mixed queues you are a moron & i will bite your head off. i haven’t mentioned them once in my arguments. don’t pull that kitten.
I hope you realize chaith is only streaming so ppl can use his affiliate link to buy pof, hes gonna disappear once everyone is done buying pof.