Guild Wars 2

soysauce.1246:

Sargon.9132:

@OP’s edit. you say that these classes are far superior in comparison at everything but I fail to see the proof behind it. Stating something and supporting that statement are two different things. For instance I’m taking the opposing position on your argument because I’m certain that an Ele can have just as crazy burst and roam as a thief albeit with a higher skill cap. Like wise and Engineer can hold a point just like a guardian can the difference being a higher amounr of cond. dmg.

What other proofs do you need other than everyone and their mother on this forum section is complaining about the above three said classes. People posts screenshots and videos as well to show how op these classes are so you might want to look those up.

Just yesterday, I was playing with a group and we would lose every game probably because our composition didn’t have any mesmer/guardian/thief. So two of the members in the group decided to switch to their mesmer and thief see if we can improve the win ratio and behold, we won three out of the four games we played. It’s amazing how one mesmer and one thief can have such an impact on the win ratio…

To everyone who disagree that these classes don’t need a nerf, do this. Do about 10 tourney games BY YOURSELF and count how many of those games is win by the team with the most mesmer/guardian/thief. Then report back here and tell us why you still think these classes are fine as they are.

My mistake I should just agree with this vocal minority of people who spam QQ posts all day. There are quite a few names that I am becoming familiar with that spend hours on this forum complaining about the same stuff, It’s circlejerky and annoying.

Also it should be noted that w/o a MMR running your little test yields no useful results, Especially since you won’t be playing against the same teams(skill level, their comp, etc.) So again I ask based on what are these classes technically imbalanced in comparison to other classes. Aside from skill-cap there are very few imbalances in the game.

As for your 10 solo tourneys, there are so many variables in those games that you couldn’t possibly deduce an imbalance you may get something that appears as such but that would have more to be with class complexity or skill-cap then anything else.

But I’ll humor you; I played Engi
3 tourneys so I don’t have to be bored in solo que all day

(# of GTM on my team-# of GTM on opposing team- 1win,0loss)

(2-2-1)
(2-3-1)
(2-1-0)

(1-0-1)
(1-2-0)
(Didn’t advance to third round)

(2-3-0)
(Didn’t advance to second round)
(Didn’t advance to third round)

My advice is to stop sitting on these forums it won’t make you any better and go practice. Just because a class has a higher skill cap than another doesn’t mean that the class isn’t as effective at doing a specific role.

@Kaniro feel free to hit me up in game with this question if Dust Bunny’s answer doesn’t suffice. Luke and Yukishiro are not exactly the most credible around these forums.

@OP’s edit. you say that these classes are far superior in comparison at everything but I fail to see the proof behind it. Stating something and supporting that statement are two different things. For instance I’m taking the opposing position on your argument because I’m certain that an Ele can have just as crazy burst and roam as a thief albeit with a higher skill cap. Like wise and Engineer can hold a point just like a guardian can the difference being a higher amounr of cond. dmg.

Lewk.8359:

if i want to reach my highest potential i currently MUST play Thief/Mesmer/Guardian in order to achieve that potential"

Based on what exactly?

Bloodtau.4672:

aydenunited.5729:

I’ve so far heard every profession except elementalists and necros referred to as OP more than once. Your point is both invalid and of childish disposition, and I would assume you will continue to be a bad player for quite some time until you adjust your attitude.

Lol Engineers OP. Wish this was actually true my friend. We can do everything but not be good at any of it.

I’ve seen your name complaining about engineers to much so I’ll be upfront get off the forums and go kitten practice. If you didn’t spend so much time here I’m sure you’d be doing better or have a more credible response. In all honesty when I see your name on the forums you have zero credibility, that might not mean anything to you but it’s food for thought.

Well that’s just it, a lot of people are bandwaggoning these posts and putting pressure on anet to make balance changes. I have yet to see someone with a highly educated post pertaining to balance.

This please, I don’t want things being changed simply because people are upset at their own ability to play.

@mage sorry you need chests to feel gratification of the game and can’t enjoy the game without a simple reward system. I can also mention that I’m missing up to 100 chests now and it’s not much of a deal. I’m not losing out on anything important. Is some random gear that you can already craft and a chance at dye really that big of a deal? I mean sure the glory you would normally receive with the chest for the win can be a pretty big hit as well but in the end it’s just a number and doesn’t provide you with anything.

As for the OP the glory vendors are seperated by 1,20,30… etc. Youve got a very long way to go before your even close to being able to use the 11th vendor, the name simply hasn’t been changed.

Thing with eles is that there are only small few builds that allow the ele to shine. Whereas other classes can offer some different builds and trait setups for the same style of play IE 100Blades Warrior can be done a number of ways and still be effective.

Sprawl.3891:

no necros on any pro teams

In the competitive scene Necros are gonna be huge, don’t give up on them.

Thank you for this. Well said and I hope many of these posters take this to heart.

I find it hard to judge the skill level of any player claiming to play a class, yet not showing it in basic knowledge of the class itself. That being said I have played around 500 matched as Guardian and Thief this is across all match types such as hot-join and tourney ques. I have played multiple builds and roles for both classes and honestly can’t fathom how you see one class is more OP then the other. As it currently stand the 1v1 match up goes to the more skilled player. If you can’t win as a thief vs. Guardian that’s your problem not the classes. I don’t want this to sound like another l2p post but honestly I think you should give it more time before you claim that one class is stronger than the other. If you think I’m wrong I’d be happy to hear where you think the imbalance between the classes arises. Assuming you can represent both classes evenly.

Conditions > Guardian. Simply because even condition removal specced Guards have to make decisions as to when to cleanse the conditions as well as most of the cond removal seems highly random. It’s annoying removing the blind and have the 15 stacks of bleed still ticking. If your having problems removing Guardians from points its a playstyle issue on Khylo the map where having a Guardian middle seems most important you even get a secondary mechanic that completely demolishes Guardians. Honestly I haven’t had trouble with them. And seeing from both sides of the spectrum well coordinated teams shut out Guardians quickly and easily.

I agree as well, reading all this QQ about balance is getting old.

Emoqt.1853:

My main concerns right now is teams will get bored because of lack of competition. Up and coming teams will get bored because there is no ELO to match there own skill so they will either stomp or get stomped – no decent games. No custom tournaments to have in community tournaments (guilds etc) and our team cant scrim any other teams.

Not impressed.

There is a guild that has one player from each team that plays sPvP competitively and it is used as a hub to que up tourneys simultaneously to get good practice in. Teams like TP, TSS, iO, AC, vVv, iG just to name a few have a rep in the guild. That being said I don’t like having to resort to this method to get good practice in. But it is truly amazing that the community is willing to work together to improve their play ina friendly manner. I would like it if ANet would implement something in game to handle this situation better ie: elo/mmr etc.