How can you all complain about a class on that classes forum thread, without even playing the class? Play a thief up to 80. Experience the PVE and PVP and then come back and make your “claims”. Honestly it takes 8 hours to level and 80 through crafting. If YOU think its OP roll a thief and record it and show us all how OP it is. For every one of those video’s we can point out a 100b warrior vid, a mesmer burst vid, ele survive vid ect. Such a bunch of babies… crying about this.