Guild Wars 2

Malediktus.3740:

Miku Lawrence.6329:

We’re getting masteries as a new way to filter people in pickup groups. Isn’t that nice?

Yes. lfm CoF p1, must have at least 1000 mastery points

Just the thought of it makes me cringe…

But yeah, as people here point out AP discrimination isn’t actually the real problem, the lack of real criteria to determine whether or not someone is a good player is.

wauwi.9162:

TPMN.1483:

Could be a good thing – may be worth trying it to see how many players join the group and if the quality improves.

You realize, that i was joking about the dungeoneer title?
You would never be able, to fill a group with dungeoneers only, because everyone who has that title, which are probably just a handful of players anyway, either doesn’t do dungeons or starts laughing and crying at the same time, when asked “hey, wanna do a dungeon?”.

Just misread Thought you meant Dungeon Master, which is easily obtainable to anyone. There’s always going to be some kind of arbitrary requirement though, I agree with that but something actually relevant to Dungeons would be a very nice improvement.

wauwi.9162:

It could be worse.

“Show Dungeoneer-Title or kick.”

See?

Anyways, i agree with the above posters…“tru pro pugs” would just find another arbitrary thing to judge a player’s experience in dungeons, which has not relation or indication to actual experience.

As far as I’m concerned “Show Dungeoneer Title” would be a huge improvement over the completely arbitrary AP requirements that go around. A Dungeoneer title is something anyone can obtain in a day or two of work, 5-10-15k AP is not.

Not to mention how it’s “slightly relevant” rather then “completely and utterly irrelevant”.

Silferas.3841:

Having the ability to check other people’s builds would be so nice.

Yeah, but being able to check out build and gear could lead to discrimination…. (That’s the argument they’re using right?)

I got multiple accounts, five in fact, and if bored I often do a second set of dungeon runs on my second geared out account. Said account only does dungeon runs so it has fairly low AP, which frequently gets me locked out of teams or kicked.

I show up at my 16k AP account and people treat me like a rock star and don’t blame me for anything regardless of how bad I play that day. And I never ever experience getting kicked.

I show up at my 1,5k AP account and I get kicked for mistakes other people make and people don’t ever listen to what I have to say in dungeons. If I tell someone to get in to the stacking spot properly so they don’t kill the entire team, they tell me to kitten off and that I’m a noob. If I tell people the same thing on my main account, they go “OK” and do as I say instantly with no complaints because “Someone with that much AP obviously has a clue right.”.

The difference between running dungeons on a 16k and a 1,5k AP account is night and day, even though I’m playing the exact same class with the exact same gear. And it’s the exact same player behind the wheels.

AP shouldn’t be visible to anyone ingame outside of Guild.

Edit:
After reading a lot of these replies and giving it some thought it’s pretty clear that what’s really needed isn’t to hide AP but rather implement a better system to verify that a character has the correct build and gear for efficient dungeon runs. And while this would definitely lead to a different kind of discrimination I think discrimination based on merit (or lack of it) beats being discriminated against for arbitrary and completely irrelevant reasons.