Guild Wars 2

25/15/30/0/0 is a healing oriented build focusing on nuke dmg, with quickness 4sec+3sec from wep, go go, 9k heal with 1k healing power, scale it down to 500 or you start loosing serious dps.

conclusions?
shadow tree is awesome everybody says so, hehe, yup you won’t go wrong with 300 healing (especially if you have none) and 300 toughness kitten right if you don’t got any)
better then 300 condition damage / steal recharge or is it? nvm, if u like that trait line go for it but with a thiefs balanced damage / low survivability i now sure it’s a waste with traits.

Jericho thank you again for replying, we can both agree on 2 things it seems, toughness > better heals. vitality for 12k base hp goes along way i’d say a short way pve, i almost always play pve hence why the vitality madness :p

yeah thank you Frenk, i’m gonna go switch that now, i think it’s ridiculously high with 1k healing power let me check

crit chance is crit dmg.

hey funky fat thighs – low crit chance is not good at all, i take it your in the 20 zone, boosting it too 40 which isn’t really that much precision hence why i reccomend going knights gear. the 0 precision of valkyrie for their extra toughness meh, better to with precision and vitality no?

hey Jericho thanks for replying, do you know how toughness compare to overall survivability in comparision with vitality perhaps?

then u can easily go stealth reg up for 2 seconds stealth again, downside is it looks funny when a thief does this and ppl hate it cuz he’s just slowly regenerating thou it’s even moer funny when a theif with 2k health dagger jump in and insta die :P

remove conditions is no problems, i always runs with guardians for some reason

hmm found this regarding the thread Combos that grant Life stealing
Combo Field: Dark × Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
Combo Field: Dark × Combo Finisher: Whirl

seems were the only class with dark combo fields which grant life leech! so it’s actually 3 heals in 1 spell, great 20% 4 with condition removal. 5 with extra heal in stealth, might come usefull i think.

u can’t dodge all day, the most normal death cenario for me is me running out of dodges, u say u like acrobatics, but take it from u i see your something like 0/10/30/30/0 which is real low on dmg, 25/30/0/0/15 i run, with 17k hp, it’s a pain to get it that high without taking acrobatics, but with it i’m at 20k or so, so can always switch if i start feeding to get that extra dodge sweet

actually noticed something, hide in shadow heal/regen spell /invis for 4 sec if speced is great to add grandmaster trate heal while in shadow, then it’s actually valuable over signet of mailice imo because of the bonus 300 healing power youll be getting as well

for Dungeons basically, the lowest hp dies first. i wonder why hmm, guardians yell toughness warriors always wan’t more dps, theifs should get something too, but they need everything…

i’m thinking of rethinking the whole idea with healing power on thiefs and rangers, let’s forget about Guardians & Elementalists because they’re some real good healing builds for those classes i think, but since thiefs only got 2 real healing skills nah, i’d just use them along with my extra 10 000 hp and meanwhile not healing staying alive long enough to get that friendly protection buffs

i’ll rank it somewhat i think is the strongest – weaker.

1. Signet of Malice or any other healing skill.
2. Shadow Refuge.
3. Eat an Egg.

so figuratively speaking Thief A has 20k health and he suffers a great deal of dmg 15k, he’s down to 5k hp, any big attacks and he’s down, what he needs is a heal, hmm 5k + regeneration 6 sec? no, signet of malice 30x attacks, it’s actually only around 10 sec of attacking with daggers (30×125) (500 healing power) 3750, so attacking for 25 seconds is better then all heals in game? yeas and no, theoretically indeed, so thief’s not up? they’re indeed, with a very little health pool they loose aproximately 15% dps over a warrior if they go knights gear to get 5k extra hp and since it’s not really easy to get any kind of heal build to actually work all round, i’ll go precision, vitality, power and just screw it-.- thiefs do high dmg, any tips on how to survive?

knights on armor i’d take and berseker on the rest added with trates that boost A dmg / B Survivability and C take shadow’s return as first utility skill, it’s super awesome in any situations. and a must have in many ocasions, i take it always it’s just a must have for any class if all had it

Hello try to help as much and as imformative as possible. quickness is a godsend for any D/D thief really, try get 2-3 different sources of quickness and you’ll basically cut down warrior’s like trees. main stats should in any kind of thief build except P/D, death blossom spam be Power/Precision. try get Power as high as possible and keep precison over 1775 for something like 51% crit. now this is you’re choice thou, toughness or vitality, personally i’d go with vitality because of stuns and while in them you will die if you’re not tanky (healing power don’t help), thou healing power is great not lying i’d go with a more standard thief build for starters so you’re A critty B tanky. goes well together as long as you don’t die in 2 seconds.
shortbow is also great when dueling daggers, aoe weakness from 15 points in power tree is also a good treat, as well as -2 initiative on stealth skills + remove 3 condition.
healing! yeah, if you’re in pvp try not to focus so much on regeneration healing effect and more on brutal raw power since it’s known to stack all up, you’ll then be running around with 20k hp, and deal as much dps as any dps dealing in this game, hf & gl.