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Suika.4567

Final thought:
If you really want to hear from the Devs, OP, maybe you should check this out:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Upcoming-Forum-Changes-to-WvW-Match-ups-Sub-forum/first#post3393146

Listed under the reasons why the match-ups sub-forum is no more, (reasons that broke the Forum Code of Conduct) is “Accusations of hacking, exploiting, & griefing”

This post would fall under that category, FYI. Accusations do not belong on the forums. Goodnight.

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Posted by: Suika.4567

Suika.4567

-We (DR) are going for the win. We are not collaborating or coordinating with GOM in ANY way.

We are currently behind you by about 4,000 points, why wouldn’t we attack your stuff to try and close that gap?

If you’re trying to beat server 1 as server 3, focusing server 2 to close the gap is a super bad strategy. I’m either left to conclude DR is utterly idiotic when it comes to strategy, or your claims don’t line up. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

On a side note, we actually HAVE been focusing GoM (I refer you to the same site). Today we camped their entire BL during prime, only to have you (unintentional I believe) double team force us to lose 2 of our WPs. That’s why, I’m sure you can understand, many Dh players are upset. We could both be fighting for first, but DR seems to have given up and instead is fighting for 2nd.

First, read what I said (what you quoted) again. I said “why wouldn’t we attack you.” I didn’t say we were FOCUSING you; two very different things. We’ve been attacking BOTH of you, for goodness sake.

On the other note: TBH, I can understand being upset and frustrated, and reading into it thinking something sinister is going on. I can understand because we were in THE SAME POSITION in a previous weekly match against GOM and another team. That’s because it is just something that happens in a 3-way match. It does not mean that anyone is collaborating.

But, when we were in that position, we didn’t take to the forums making wild accusations and pointing fingers. We accepted that in a 3-way battle, sometimes we are going to be on the receiving end of both teams, by mere mechanics of the system and tactics.
It does not mean anything beyond that is going on.

I appreciate that you clarified that you are not accusing us of that. The reason I commented (which is the first time I have on a forum) is because I really did not appreciate the way the OP decided to take out their frustration, by pointing fingers and making accusations against my server’s integrity. That is all. I am not a commander, so I can’t speak to strategy, nor would I; I’m just a player, I can’t speak for my whole server.

But what I can say, indisputably, is that we are not working with GOM, we are FIGHTING them, and that these accusations are unfounded and insulting, and the way the OP is deciding to go about expressing their frustration is honestly immature. That is all.

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Posted by: Suika.4567

Suika.4567

Last thought: has it occurred to anyone commenting on here that, if DH is in 2nd as things currently stand, whoever is below you is probably going to try attacking you to close the gap and surpass you, and whoever is above you is probably going to attack you because they don’t want you to close the gap on them and surpass them? That is kind of basic logic, and the natural results of a 3-way battle. This is what comes to mind when reading what you are talking about above.
It doesn’t mean that there is any sort of conspiracy plot or communications across servers. It means we are all playing the game.

Regardless, I haven’t seen it that cut and dry any time I’m on. In fact, we are going after GOM equally, if not MORE often, than we are going after DH, from what I have seen.

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Suika.4567

Are you kidding me?!

Let me get this straight: This is all conjecture based on loose ASSUMPTIONS that any attacks on you are more than coincidence, but coordinated?
Yet you are demanding action based upon no evidence of this at all?

I am not going to even entertain this accusation for very long; I’m only going to say a few choice things:

-We (DR) are going for the win. We are not collaborating or coordinating with GOM in ANY way. Why would we, they are our MAIN COMPETITION. This is the 3rd time we are matched up against them in a row, and each time they have kept 1st away from us. We want to take them down, and we are working towards that end, I assure you.

-I find it interesting that this was posted at a time that YOU ARE AHEAD OF US in this week’s match. Seriously, why are you coming on here to whine? We aren’t even in 2nd at the moment, YOU are. We are currently behind you by about 4,000 points, why wouldn’t we attack your stuff to try and close that gap?

-I find it completely misleading that you are posting this on here, with full-blazed accusations, saying “2nd place is picking on 3rd” when our servers are currently TIED FOR 2ND and YOU are the ones ahead of us in overall points in this week’s bracket, at the time that you posted this. Very misleading to the others on this forum indeed!

-As far as I understand WvW, it’s a 3-way free-for-all. This is just a guess here (as I try not to make assumptions, see?) but if you feel like both servers are attacking you too often, maybe it’s because you are leaving yourself open to attack to often? Enemies go after weak spots when they see them, that’s kinda how this works.

You can’t expect action to be taken, and threaten to sign a petition, when you are basing this on ASSUMPTIONS. That doesn’t go very far. There is no evidence of this happening, and the Devs are smart enough not to humor you unless you were presenting them with something (like facts?) more concrete than your own bitterness. But you aren’t, particularly because THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.

Bottom line: It honestly just sounds like whining, and I’m not even sure why, because it seems like you guys are holding your own fine to me.

I’m sorry if I am coming off rude here, but honestly it’s pretty offensive that you are not only assuming, but then posting it here as if your assumption is fact, making accusations and demanding action without anything concrete to back up your insulting accusation.
As I know my commanders are working hard day and night to pull out a win for us, you are insulting our integrity as a server, and I really don’t appreciate it.

Can’t we just all enjoy the game and play it? Seriously.