Guild Wars 2

Oh yeah guys, btw, if you didn’t already know… Prepare to get MOA’d instantly you go into lich form, bcs you know, it’s not like that skill isn’t even more popular now or anything.

Engineer favorite child. Time to learn the class boys.

Condi Necro here.
I have to either choose Dhuumfire or Fitg. Wtf.
I have to either choose 100% condi duration when having scepter equipped or Terror. Wtf. (It’s not like it’s hard to condi cleanse, so 100% condi duration is almost useless)

I can still be stunlocked while in DS and be bursted out of it, so Dhuumfire (in most group situations) will be nearly useless due to me being focused, I bet the most stacks of dhuumfire I’ll be able to pull off is either 2 or 3 if counting CC and blinds that may affect me. I’ll lose out on potential bleed stacks from scepter and poison due to wanting to be in DS for the Dhuumfire. No 10 second stun break with 1 stack of stability, serious?

Did I miss anything else? Nothing important, bcs they literally didn’t offer condi Necro anything, if anything, they obscurely nerfed it.

Meanwhile, all of dem Guardians awesome changes that may offer a really good condi build + buffs, thief changes that will make s/d even more OP + other buffs, Mesmer buffs in general, and Engineer godlike tweaks. Insane.

Czerny.6530:

When I first started I could stand still, no movement, no dodging while spamming staff marks and win 1v3 fights.

Staff spamming marks to win 1v3s? Did you play against people that were legally blind or something?

Anyway,
What appeals to me of the Necromancer has to be that IT IS the underdog class. It’s shunned in PvE, if focused in PvP it will go down as fast as an untouched Lich Form can down its enemies, its only useful mechanic/gameplay is when it’s sitting in the back of a WvW zerg spamming 1, and well it’s overall a class that plays against itself most of the time. Often, I get myself in situations (or am put in situations) where I die and I’d think to myself “If I was on my nikey warrior, block/heal all dmg Guardian, teleport and stealth thief, etc, I’d be alive now rather than dead contributing nothing for my team”.

You have to be a real baller to play Necro and stay optimistic about the class rather than leave it altogether and play something else. While being completely useless in sPvP against a really coordinated premade or just semi-competent players, I like the part(s) where I 1v1 people (and win, or put up a really great fight) in WvW roaming or sPvP point capping. People underestimate Necro too much, and when we’re able to lay down the hammer and utterly obliterate someone, it’s a feeling that can’t be had when playing any other class.

You’re my hero, Nemesis. You hit the nail on the head so good with this analysis.

Btw, the way you demonstrate the issues and what not, it’s hilarious. Keep it up!

Not worth it. Roll another class, at first it’s cool to think and believe you control of all of these undead minions and dark magixxx and stuff, but if you truly want to have fun, DON’T roll a Necro.
Like others have said, Warrior or Elementalist for all occasions and situations AND versatile builds and gameplay.

I’ve also been getting this. It can get a bit annoying after a while.

I agree with the concept behind what the OP is trying to bring to the table here…

Necromancer as it is are a power house of dmg if left alone, if not left alone (and it’s easy as balls to get on a necro and stay on them) then pray to Grenth that there’s at least some beer waiting in the after life.
Many other classes can do what Necro does but better, with having lots of survivability and overall bringing utility where it’s needed.

It’s a poor design to look at the current state of a Necromancer and be like “It has no survivability, it’s obviously going to be bullied around in EVERY area of the game, if it has no lich form up then it’s pretty much a free kill if you don’t stand in wells, yeah boys lets boost up its damage and leave it as it is.” Condition roaming is the same deal if not even worse if you fight competent players.

I’d much rather they take away from my damage and give me more tools to survive so I can actually fend for my own rather than having to rely so much on my mates so that I don’t get shot down.

I also agree, me gusta.

Me gusta the screenshots.

Me gusta.
15tacos

Yep, more matches of being pingponged around and/or cc locked by a warrior while, along with the SAME factor that always destroys my hopes of even being able to get my life force bar up, the cunning pewpew Ranger just 1 shooting me from 0940394832093 miles away.

The class relies too heavily on life force to even stay alive for a longer bit to dish out damage, and it relies even more heavily on lich form, which has a long cd. Can’t do anything if I’m taken out of the fight before it even begins. “Position well!” Again, against any half decent team in PvP, any combo of any class, can skirmish you rather easily and end it for you there. I’m probably just bad at the class, as well.

Can’t dish out any damage if I’m taken out before the fight even begins, no life force, lich on cooldown, some times I feel like I’m a Moa more often than I’m turned into one.

Nvm.

ronpierce.2760:

This is pretty common. Unfortunately, many of our woes gets swept up in “team game” and “before are just very team dependent and placement dependent”. Which obviously has its own issues. Without going into a long rant, it’s common to feel this way. We do well if unchecked but are pretty easy to check. Best to play for fun rather than victory or perhaps test around with less popular builds to try to be semi-effective, yet more defensive.

I’ve recently played a bit of 6/4/0/0/4 celestial dagger wh/staff with LF on marks. It’s surprisingly effective, clearly lacking but it’s something different Snd slightly less squishy than the meta, so maybe it’s sonething to toy around with. Sorry you’re having a hard time!

I can’t see how losing is still fun though, how being tossed around and completely obliterated every time I step out of spawn is fun. I’ve tried a tankie necro build before, it only extended the time I had before I met my downfall. My damage dropped by a lot and the only thing that kept me alive was my second health bar, but if focused by CC and what not, I was a goner in a split sec still.

I appreciate your input and good wishes, but I just can’t see how playing this class is fun. I must be a masochist, or maybe just too prideful to admit that my first class ever just straight up sucks and every other class can do a better job all while not being stomped to the ground rather easily.

Everyone’s saying Revenant is what the Necro should have been, so right now, I have my eyes set on that class.

Consisting of, me being a pinball to engis in PvP while the cunning ranger in the background pewpews me to oblivion.

I’ve been playing this game for 52 days, 476 hours, on which I’ve spent most of it on my necro (warrior coming second), and… I don’t know why, but I’ve developed some kind of frustrated-state of being every time I even think about hoping on my necro, which was the character I started playing the game with. Holy crap, against any half-competent team in PvP, I stand no chance. I bet they look at me and laugh while saying “haha, cc this dude, free kill”

I love the class, but my god.. the only times I feel useful / not frustrated when playing it is when I just stand in the back of a huge zerg in WvW and free cast, and that’s not fun at all. PvE is out of the question.

Any advice? Suggestions?
Hows ya’ll day been?

1. Watches gameplay.
2. Sees build.
3. Logs into warrior, equips rifle and greatsword and enters WvW. With great hope, a smile on my face, really hyped.
4. Fails at everything and gets terribly owned.

Teach me the ways senpai!

Good video, really enjoyable seeing some rifle warrior gameplay.