Guild Wars 2

Reztek.7805:

Seriously, i need more backpack slots. Luckily there’s a merchant at AG hills.

Not any more there isn’t

Did the guardian have line-of-sight on you to hit you with his pull skill? You may have been on the wall, got hit and ran back behind the wall before he activated the skill and pulled you.

Can you give us more details on what happened?

Continued from above:

So far as being without honor and sportsmanship is concerned I’m going to have to disagree with you. By my definition, if I was without honor I wouldn’t be making this post. But I’m not going to bother trying to deny I am “without sportsmanship”. There is a list of things I consider “un-sporting” such as ganking players in the JP – I can quite honestly say I haven’t done that, corpse-dancing – haven’t done that either as I don’t see the point. But one thing I can say is that I have not violated the ToC or used any exploits (unless you consider hiding a mesmer in the glitch spots at hills or bay to be an exploit) and if they have the ability to do so ANet is welcome to look though whatever records or logs they may have on my account and confirm that.

I realise this post is getting on in length so I’ll summarise my main points now for those that didn’t read everything.
Yesterday happened, I was involved.
My posts, my words, my opinion.

I don’t think there is anything else to add here. If you wish to discuss this further feel free to send me a message in-game. You have my account name there to the left of this post.

makku.2508:

Teal.9083:

This thread is going to get out of hand fast I’m sure but one reason for AG’s actions in the closing hours was realising that based on the score, our numbers, etc we had 0 chance (mathematically) of getting out of third place and made the decision to prevent RS from winning in response to recent comments from some RS forum-goers about Gandara “baby-sitting” us in a recent match-up.

Thats the reason why I lent my support to this action. Obviously no one on AG is happy about losing the match but it was interesting to see how long it took BB to become aware of what we were doing and take advantage of that.

So due to some RS forum-goers you decided to ruin the fun for everyone? I’d just like to advise you guys to think stuff through better next time.

What you effectively did was just prove the guys who made the “baby-sitting” comments to be right: You (AG) can only impact matchups when working together with another server to create a 2v1 scenario (with the other server being the stronger force obviously).
On top off that, you also took away ‘victory’ from BB. Was an amazingly close match between RS and BB that could have gone either way before you guys decided to give points for free to BB and assist them whereever you could. So BB just happened to finish with the most points, but neither of us could call ourselves the winner, as there was none. Just one sore loser: AG.
And that’s the third thing you did: Bring shame on your whole server and every single honorable player that may be on it. Now this is just a game and all, people shouldn’t take stuff too seriously and w/e, but do not be as naive as to think this will go without consequence. Since you’ve proven yourselves to be without honor and sportmanship, don’t expect to be treated as if you had these things.

See you on the battlefield.

To BB: GL & HF the coming week.
To AG: Prepare for some laughing and corpsedancing, lootbags.

Hi Makku, I’m only replying to your post because I’ve been directly quoted and wish to point out a couple of things about my post that I don’t want missed.

First of all you will notice that I have used the word “I” quite extensively rather than “we”. I can’t speak for others and why they did or did not take part in this. I can only speak for myself.

I won’t deny encouraging people around me to ignore BB players and focus on RS because I did encourage them to do so and I’m sure someone could probably provide a screenshot to prove that.

Several Gladians PMed me in-game asking what I was thinking. I explained myself to them as I did in the post you quoted. Some of them told me I was out of my kittening mind and should gtfo the server – I told them they did not have to follow me, they could do whatever they wanted. No one was “forced” to do anything they didn’t want to do. Others agreed with my logic and went along with it.

So in response to your first point – Yes, one reason for MY actions was related to some RS forum-goers however I don’t think I ruined the fun “for everybody”. I no longer fit into the stereotypical teenage nerd living in his mother’s basement playing computer games surrounded by stacks of pizza boxes and empty soda cans. I do think my actions through and the majority of them are deliberate.

As many others here have posted WvWvW is a week-long, drawn out, money-sink of a war. Wars are won in different ways and so far as the points go BB won.
Does it bother me how they won? No.
Am I proud that I helped them win? Not particularly.
Am I secretly pleased RS didn’t win? Yes.
Do I care if I am singled out, ostracized, shunned for admitting this? No.

It is a fact that AG lost and had lost before this action began. ANet stated in an earlier article that they expected servers to work together against whoever was leading at the time. If you feel that my participation in this is against the ToC then please, feel free to report me and I’ll wait for a representative of ANet to get in touch.

Getting back to your third point now (just noticed I was starting to ramble). You state that I have “brought shame on my whole server and every honorable player that may be on it”. This is the reason why I am raising my hand and saying I was involved in this action. If you read the various posts in this thread you will see representatives of some of the guilds on AG saying they had no part in this and to the best of my knowledge – based on who I spoke with and the guild tags I saw around me – what they say is true.

This thread is going to get out of hand fast I’m sure but one reason for AG’s actions in the closing hours was realising that based on the score, our numbers, etc we had 0 chance (mathematically) of getting out of third place and made the decision to prevent RS from winning in response to recent comments from some RS forum-goers about Gandara “baby-sitting” us in a recent match-up.

Thats the reason why I lent my support to this action. Obviously no one on AG is happy about losing the match but it was interesting to see how long it took BB to become aware of what we were doing and take advantage of that.

Tanks… I think it could work but with a couple of things to offset its offensive capabilities such as restricting it to using the roads only and placing an icon on the map representing where it was so defenders would know and be able to react accordingly.

Also, make it require multiple people in order to function properly, such as one driver, one gunner – maybe ballista or AC – and one cannon/catapult operator. This would promote teamwork etc.

Have it buildable only at the supply camp closest to your spawn. This means you must take bay or hills before you can move on to garrison and the northern towers (because it can’t move off road).

Also making it impossible to WP or teleport via mesmer portal means people would have to escort the tank towards the objective.

Anyways, it is almost midnight here and I"m dozing off over my keyboard so while I don’t expect to see this happen any time soon I think there are plenty of ways that it could be made to work and introduce new ways for people to work together.

Starfall.6425:

The 60+ AG zerg at bay on their BL wasn’t nice too. We are atm jumping servers with <30 people and whenever we attack anywhere withing 60 seconds we got a 40+ zerg at our location.

JS is really good at reacting atm.. It was fun while we were 30-40 guildies but now.. now it is absolutely not playable. But it’s a good experiance though.

I would kill to have this many people around me when I play. Unfortunately I’m on the “night team” and we’re usually lucky to have a quarter of these numbers around.

But like you said, gotta give credit to JS for their reaction times, one thing that sort of bugs me is the arrogance displayed by some of their forces. For example when I got on last night our entire AG borderland was owned by JS and only hills had any sort of upgrades going – made taking everything back easier so thank you for that – but it almost felt like they were saying “we know we can come back and take your keeps anytime we want so we won’t bother upgrading them” which is more than a little condescending.

It may have been nothing more than a “cap and run” type of assault but I know that when we do that in an enemy’s homeland we – usually – try our damnedest to hold what we’ve taken.

Owanhaban.1590:

It is sad today to see all these Aurora Glade’s and Abaddon’s Mouth’s players in the EB jumping puzzle just to troll the other players …

I’m sorry but it wasn’t sad when JS did the same thing to everyone over the weekend? Having 15 – 20 players come running out of the dark room and killing you off almost instantly is never a bad thing right?

Regardless, I’ll be glad to see a new match up next week. JS has been a cut above us for the last week and a half now and I have to admit it has been a learning experience for us. I’ve certainly seen some new tactics, siege placements etc that can only be beneficial to us in the future. AM, thank you for some good fights, I liked last night now you came in behind us at hills on our borderland when we were trying to take it back from JS and wiped us only to have us come back and do exactly the same thing to you less than 5 minutes later while you were knocking on their inner gate

Looking forward to facing you again next week AM when Gandara come to visit – assuming that is who we get of course.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Siege despawning obviously.

But I agree, siege should not have a despawn time, instead make it so that you can only have a set number per borderland.
Who wants to have to go back every 20 minutes to reset siege so they wont despawn anyway? It seems really silly to me. People spend badges even gold on siege, and yet you can only have them around for 30 minutes.

While I agree that it is irritating to run up to an arrow cart and see it despawn about 2 seconds before you get there I really don’t like the idea of a set number per borderland as this would just give saboteurs (yes they do exist) yet another method to screw you over. All they’d have to do is put down rams until they met the limit and since you can’t destroy them you wouldn’t be able to build siege anywhere else on the map.

A slight modification of this idea which I do like would be to limit the amount of siege each side is able to place in each area’s circle of influence (the area that buffs from a claiming guild extend to).