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Will watch the vid when i am at home.
Cannot even remember that we already had a GVG half a Year ago…Looks like i “lied” in the German Forum again doh!
thx DP for the GvG!
Thank you as well. Was our very first GvG. Without any GvG Experience and special GvG Builds you guys were a number too big for us. But we learned a lot from that fights.
We improved later on in a 15v15 against [NO] and had some rly great fights.
Fighting right now against [PONY] in a 10v10. Thx to this 2 Guilds as well. We had an interesting evening and alot of fun.
We were not on FR BL because you were the “weakest” server. The reason is quite simple. We had over 100 ppl on ts and we had to look for a server where most of them were able to join -> FR BL.
I think you guys got at least a ton of lootbags… i think we had more “green arrows” than ranger pets that evening
w/e it was an event – it was fun (for us) – we had over 100ppl on ts that laughed cryied and played together and yes this is a reason to be “proud” of (what a silly word here… it is just a game)
great job at VoTF and the guys from ranik – sorry i think you had no big guild groups running this evening so great job from you guys defending your objectives it is a hard job against such masses. I rly loved the fight between garrison / west tower this was one hell of a battlefield with all three parties involved.
My favourite is “Arrowcarts Mouth”
such a tough choice
WXP pver’s on the one hand… PvPr’s on the other…
Lold kitten this one.
I guess, all of us knows – reset time means big blob time from each server. Well for sure, server, who are playing in higher tiers, got more menpower, better organisation.
Thats why they are in higher tiers. The higher the server is in ranking the larger the WvW menpower. Thats fact. Otherwise they weren´t that high in ranking.wtf are you talking about? You are in 11th place and right after you there is Gandara in 12th place. I don’t get what you mean with higer tiers – joking?
Look at our matchups we had since anet introduced the New Rating.
Tongun, were you the guy with the treb in Dawns? :p
That was sooooo irritating
Yeah… Miller tried to conquer the tower from supply camp
Also Gandara are better than you, when we fought them gvg it was an actual fight, when it was AM or millers in the past it was pretty easy. The only tactic for success for you is to blob, so I can understand why you all keep doing it. How else would you win.
Thats the reason we took hills even without a blob. Just because of tactics…
You judge a whole server because of few actions.
Yeah RG usually runs <15 but they had to face 2 blobs so it should be ok… and other guilds managed to do it with fewer numbers… w/e it’s useless to discuss about it. We will not kick non guild members from our raid. We play as a server and not as guilds. There will be enough moments when ADAC/ FAME / LNS even DP runs as a guild group you just have to find them and they will fight you for sure
Yes.
there is a RG vid out there where they first killed a blob of the other fraction (dunno what matchup it was) and right after that our blob came in and they wiped it again.
So they proved that it is possible to win even against 2 blobs. Other guilds did it as well.
And btw i do understand you guys. But if you are looking for fights just do GvG’s DP will never disturb you guys while doing it. Sometimes we just take a look and /wave at you guys and move on. WvW is more than GvG and small scale fights. WvW is ALSO about sieges and large scale fights.
It was kinda frustrating for me as well, wenn i tried to lead a guild group against other zergs but i have to agree with Anorwen this is WvW.
Ok just one thing:
If you guys are better than us – and yes there are better WvW Guild / Players (i hardly play wvw tbh) – than you should be able to kill about 70% of our blobs. Top Tier Server proved this.
And another thing about facing blobs: It’s pretty easy to counter them even with small numbers. ACs are designed for this purpose.
+ you can even easily win against us when we have 1 huge blob… just run in 3 groups and attack 3 targets at the same time. You should be able to get at least 2 objectives. But yeah i guess nothing will change this discussion about blobbing…
Let me show you what last nights reset was for my guild. I think there were some ppl complaining about blobbs on AM BL during reset night (not 100% sure about this).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KIwJgtU9oPI
Mesmers… heard they got portals.
We had guys patrolling there, swords on hills and 2s later in lords room , cleared entire keep with , like I said guys patrolling
You should know better.
You saw us (DP) when we tried to use a Portal below Vista. You came from NE Supplycamp and we wiped you. After this Fight you guys roamed hills with Crazy numbers and Killed our Mesmer. You Even Danced on bis corpse. So i guess we just won the First hide and seak.“crazy numbers” = our 20 guildies that were there , and there was NO mesmer left inside for sure, since we were “roaming with crazy numbers” we should have seen that don’t you think? We both talking about AM BL right?
Yeah and since the Mesmer was from my guild i can Tell you he was there.
Well counting numbers is always tough. I Thing there was at least 1 other guild Group as well.
Believe me or not you won’t See [DP] use an exploid (such as porting through closed doors) on purpose. And of this happens the Player will Jump Out of the Siege without fighting any1/thing. If you notice such an Action Screen it and send it to me. I can tell you that our Leader won’t Let this Happen.
W/e had the Hope you guys would Visite me in East Tower a Second Time. See you guys in the Field next Time.
Mesmers… heard they got portals.
We had guys patrolling there, swords on hills and 2s later in lords room , cleared entire keep with , like I said guys patrolling
You should know better.
You saw us (DP) when we tried to use a Portal below Vista. You came from NE Supplycamp and we wiped you. After this Fight you guys roamed hills with Crazy numbers and Killed our Mesmer. You Even Danced on bis corpse. So i guess we just won the First hide and seak.
Well we hacked Anet and added some special traps. They work pretty easy. Everytime you guys run through one of this special traps the server creates many copies of your character models (they are invisible). So in the end you have to load thousends of models (even if you cannot see them, they are there!)…
nah just kidding it’s a server based problem. Was on AM BL and just like Nauda said we were split up over the whole evening and i had huge laggs even when no1 was around me. So in the end there are 2 solutions for this:
You also hacked Anet and added this super special secret copy traps
or (and to be honest this is more likely)
There were some server issues
btw nice screen! Looks like some of our guild joined forces to get Garrison.
Since i do not know how your map looked like i can only guess they decided to rush your Garrison right after the beginning (time says 20:28). Nevertheless this is only 1 fotography every server could make from any other server. On AM BL we had 2 or 3 guild groups joining forces, when we attacked Gandara spawn tower, but yet there is no screen because this belongs to the game. And yeah respect for coordinating many ppl rly fast to one spot.
Yeah it is not a very high level there, but it seems that it was enough for the groups norreka and lns faced right there. It seems that DP and LNS joined forces during the last fight but giving the fact that the Enemy had at least 3 ac it shouldn’t be an advantage in this specific Situation.
So in the end you lost against wanabees with no skill. So plz Tell me how good you are.
Or just calm Down, appreciate this guild Group and ne thankful for small scale Fights and no blobbing. It seems like you do not know what you Want.
Thx for the vid. Looks like you guys had some nice Fights there
Funny thing is: Yep we have massive zergs or “blobs”.
But we do also have Guildgroups. I think some1 in this thread mentioned FAME and LNS (too lazy to search for the post) working together on a BL and win the fight. So actually it looks like we do organize in smaller groups as well.
And yes, we do not run in guild groups 24/7. We decided not to do so because we want to integrate every wvw player.
I can tell you folks, that DP does have a Guild group running – but only about 1 time per weak. The reason is not that we are too lazy to organize/train stuff but rather the product of several reasons. Just to name the most important for my guild:
We want to support the open ts server and want to give every1 the chance to play WvW in an open and friendly way and ask some questions.
So we have some commanders leading Zergs on our public ts server – and we do not care about the size. Sometimes we lead about 20 and sometimes 60+. Every1 is welcome and as long as we have only 1 commander/ BL we will not split up because of a lack of commanders. And we won’t split up if it is not needed as well.
During reset night we were forced to split up during the night because of your small scale groups.
w/e… “blobbing” is something that you can only do, when you guys give us the opportunity to do so. If you rly play in small scale groups and if your skill is rly “higher” than ours you are free to split up and cap everything away from us and join your forces to fight our Zerg back.
I do not flame other servers if they have massive zergs and i do not understand ppl complaining about this.
“AM” is hated… well i don’t mind. This makes fights more interesting and as long as ppl don’t want to transfer to our server we won’t have long queues so pls hate us! I appreciate it.
btw: Yes we have a few WvW active guilds and yes we could run small scale groups with some effort. But just as some ppl already wrote: Most of us don’t want to be forced to play “build xy” because they play WvW for 1-2 times per week. And simple as it is we accept it. We do not have an orga like other servers and i do not want to get an orga. In the end i do not think that there will be something like AM splitting up 24/7.
In the end my personal opionion about wvw tactics and “blobbing” / splitting up:
You have to react to your opponent. And there are alot of ways to do so.
If you want to conquer t3 structures a really big zerg will be to your advantage. You can build more siege weapons and you can endure more dmg. → Splitting up would be kinda waste, if you do not have to defend anything.
If your oponent doesn’t have the numbers to split up / attack multiple targets you can do both tbh. Split up and conquer things or you just wipe them every time they cross your ways and conquer stuff.
The only thing where you benefit from splitting up is when you have to defend some structures and attack at the same time (or defend multiple structures).
W/e in the end you benefit from large groups – as long as you coordinate them somehow. If you cannot coordinate them good groups like RG will just wipe the floor with your 60 man. I commanded our server reset against RG and yeah they are pretty tough. And i remember a fight where RG lead their random zerg + their guild group into battle. In the end we won because of our numbers + tactics (yeah there are differences). RG changed BL in the end and wiped BB “blob” and after they wiped them AM came in and they wiped them as well.
Under the line “blobbing” is a tactic as valid as every other tactic as well. And you have the tools to counter it. (and tbh it is pretty easy) So just do it wiped the floor with AM and enjoy the sweet victory. (ah yeah…and have some fun during your gaming hours and when you posted the vids / pics )
Ok… dunno if this all makes sense did something while writing this… w/e just enjoy the game and maybe we all read some posts, like we did in our last matchup against AR / BB.
“Hey i don’t like your big zergs, but rly good job binding so many ppl!”
or just some quick exchange of information and respect like “good def on this tower” tbh this thread is lacking polite behaviour and fun.
Cheers
Nah couldn’t watch it yet. Had some technical issues (Video didn’t load) but i will watch it for sure
BTW its not “our best Fights” its pretty every Fight from that evening. Norreka tends to add everything he recorded even wipes
@caid: ok. Yeah we know that you can see “Bad Play” in this Video. But we do not care at all as Long as we have Fun. Nauda pictured it right “we are having a Party” we Talk utterly nonsense and sometimes do stupid actions on purpose. For an example. A fsp (i think FSV) guild retreated when we took their mid keep and jumped down on a cliffhang… We could have Killed them with AoE since it was Petty obvious that they Want to Kick us Down the Cliff as soon as we Jump Down. Well after 1 Guy screamed “After them!!!” Some of us jumped in their Safe dead (i still do not know how i survived )
So yeah you are absolutely right, about this Bad Play / failure thing but the Focus of Most of Abaddon Folks (when there is such an Event) is to have fun maybe to Drink some Beer and Play drunk. Sometimes gw is nothing but a Big Party
Next time better use subtitles Norreka, so the “pros” and “real WvW players” understand what you’re saying
Nah no1 want’s to know, that ppl are constantly asking “are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” ,)
Tbh: yes we do not care about blobbing.
This Video was an Event, called "Warrior a it’s best". Just like mentioned before we habe this large scale event with different classes. This serves a simple purpose: Fun. And we had alot of fun.
"Tactics" here means, that we will not use the Same tactics as we would use in small scale groups of 20/30 ppl. We do not have to use them in such a large and Tanky group. It means something different and basic stuff - like combofields. (Yes we have ppl, that do not know of combofields etc - it is the minority of the Players but we do care). So yeah ppl learn to know the skill of the Warrior and how to Play him - on a very basic Level.
Norreka is a good commander and i do not See him very often on bis Warrior. And just like him many more just logged on their warriors from other classes, without knowing the skills and/or builds (and this is -for me- the main reason for the lack of might).
Well Long Story short: we had Fun and played with "Blobbadon" (watch the First seconds of our vid and read what we wrote )
@fsp streamer: "kittening Germans ruined the game". Sorry for this i know how you must habe felt (since we played against BB - and they are worse when it comes to "blobbing") You guys did well while defending NE tower. I think we payed you back with lootbags, when we tried to Open the door by musclepower against 5+ AC.
Cheers
"Not Nerd, not casual, just DP"