Guild Wars 2

Spakpak.7260:

This was why I had a feeling GW2 would fail in the long run

I just don’t like it when people can have an advantage in a game by paying money, even if it is a tiny one. I actually prefer paying money to support a system that does not allow these advantages. Yes, I know my logic is seriously kittened up

It would be nice if you could name one advantage. Even if its a tiny one.

ZaiTh.6378:

All of these people trying to argue that it is ok to pay to win but are you the same group of people who dont want the Trinity? Who don’t want progression?

We dont think p2w is ok.
All we are saying is: GW2 is not p2w.

Oh someone hits 80 because he bought crafting matirials from gems. Thats sooo. pay2lose.
He paid money to lose a big chunk of gameplay this game has to offer. Instead of being envy you should pitty him.

Oh someone can buy a legendary because of RL money. That must be p2w.
But i have my T3 cultural hammer(asura) and i am happy.
But it more valuable. It must be p2w. Nope . I like my hammer more.
But he spent money. It must be better. Its p2w. Nope. Same stats as mine.
But its better looking. Nope. My hammer fits perfectly my equipment.

P2W is:
You are excluded from content because it needs money, or you must spend so much time on gainig it ingame that its not worth the effort.

Nothing in GW2 fits this. Gaining a pet/Skin doesnt fit this either.
Nobody will ask: LFG ini xy acm point 3k+ only.
You are not excluded out of content if you dont want to spend money!!
Not P2W

Edit:
One question to all who think GW2 is P2W: is WoW P2W??
You cann Level your char to max level way faster if you use “Recrute a friend”
You can buy raiding runs with pro guilds for gold (and illegal gold buying)
You can buy mounts and pets for RL money. With no chance gaining it with ingame currency.
It has no legal Gold-Money exchange. Thats the only difference. So you could argue that buying raiding gear is illegal (with RL-Money). But on the other hand you cant get some things ingame in WoW. But in GW2 you can get them all (with much time)
If you think GW2 is P2W. Then WoW is P2W too. and pretty much every other MMO out there too.

I dont get it. I had a blast so far. And its not even over.

I saved up something over 50g over the past 2 months. Only doing some daily acm’s with my twink and fractals.

I changed most of it into gems early this month, beacaus i knew gem prices would skyrocket on start of wintersday.

And what did i get for this amount of money?

wintersday clothing
tophat
earmuffs
box of fun
10 x wintersday chests (nothing good inside)

I could have bought me the missing pets i did not craft, bot i spent it on bagspace for my twink. So it was my own choice NOT to get this pets. Next year i can get two more i hope.

Yesterday i spent all my remaining money on big gifts (best tp price ~ content resell value). And i was lucky and got the bell just as i was broke for money. I knew it was a gamble and i would not be mad even if i failed. But now i could sell it for >40g or keep it and be happy.
If i would sell it, all the other stuff i bought would have cost only about 20g in total. Pretty cheap.

I can understand if some people are upset about the rnd chest pets. But saying the whole event was a fail because of it is a fail in itself.
There are much things you can get for free or some gold/rl money (listed above) and i have not metioned all the things you can do besides items. And ontop of that. Its not over yet and toycalypse is about to happen.

For me its a great event thus far (even without my bell). Its sad that for some people items are more important then everything else this event has to offer.

Thats my opinon

Lets compare this with …. WoW

You like Pets? You Want to collect every one of them?
Oh how about buying every new Blizzard product out there? Because we like to cross promote our games and give each person who Game X a new Pet. and the other way round.
Oh and did i mention Blizzcon???? You can get exclusive Items when you visit it. Nice thing for all Europeans. If you want to get it you’ll have too pay much €€€.

It boggles my mind how someone can feel entitled for every item in a game ever to be implemented.
Crosspromoting. Special Gifts for new Players … do you live under a rock or in a cave??? These things are pretty much a common thing in gaming.

Nothing new. Nothing scary.