Guild Wars 2

jazzllanna.1278:

How do you know they are guesting? Just curious is there a mark or something?

They addressed the server in all-caps by the server name, which led me to suspect that they were guesting, so I asked politely for them to stop guesting, and that’s how they responded.

Ari Kagura.9182:

I wouldn’t say to remove Guesting all together, but change it so that it fits the intended purpose of the feature which is to “allow you to play with your friends on other worlds.”

The key word on that one is friends. Meaning that the server choices should be restricted to the home servers that people on your friends list belongs to. If you don’t have any mutual friends on a particular world, then you shouldn’t be allowed to guest on that world. That’s the way that guesting should work.

I do agree that it could potentially be crossing the borders of exploitation, especially for players who have multiple characters within level range to participate in such event.

On the other hand, how are we to tell if someone participating in the event is actually a guest or not? Another thing to consider is that the chests for these events have been buffed considerably. That means that more people are actually doing these events with the potential of putting late comers on Overflow servers.

Maybe showing an icon next to someone’s name could be an idea, similar to the LFG, Commander, and World Completion icons appear for certain players. Then we can truly find out if it’s Guesting that’s causing the problem, or the events just simply having a huge abundance of people from your home world.

I am very supportive of these ideas.

TwistedLink.5139:

I am in the process of validating the claim that guesting can yield more loot from dragon events.

It is true that you can no longer guest to receive multiple loots from the same event.

This does not invalidate the exploitative nature of guesting to receive loot from world events, though. An exploit is using a game mechanic to give yourself an unfair advantage, and the time saved by exploiting the guesting feature (i.e. not using it to play with friends on other servers, as intended, but to save yourself time) is an unfair advantage to those who abide by the “dragon timers” of their own world.

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Kilrain Daggerspine.6843:

Also what gives you the right to tell someone to stop guesting? you may play on the server, that dosnt mean you own the rights to it, people guesting got as much right to be there as you, so get of your pedestal.

I asked, politely, for the other player not to guest. I made no demands, I did not “tell” them to do anything, and I apologize if I come across and being on a “pedestal.”

Kilrain Daggerspine.6843:

And no, not every server is experienceing this, If you are on a very high pop server, yes you will run into it, but hell, then you’d run into it anyways, because, hey, you are on a high pop server.

The idea that “every server” is experiencing this may be an overestimate, but it is clear that the number of people being affected remains large because the most affected servers will be the high-population servers. The idea that you would run into a large number of people at this event anyway, if you are on a high-population server, is true; however, there is a much higher number of people at these events than were at these events prior to the recent patch which limited loot-ability. Why are there more people at these events when they are not farm-able than when they were farm-able?

Kilrain Daggerspine.6843:

I must however say, it is not everyday you see people whine about open world zones actually being populated, intresting turn of events indeed.

It’s not that these zones are populated, it’s that they are overpopulated, and I apologize if I come across as “whining.” I am trying to address an issue in a serious manner, and I thank you for your opinion.

I am in the process of validating the claim that guesting can yield more loot from dragon events.

The forums have been hit lately with a lot of requests to remove guesting as a feature. Many of these requests have stemmed from the overpopulation of server events due to the recent limitation put in place by the latest patch—that you may only loot a world event once per day per character. The bottom line: use of Guesting to enable looting of a world event more than once per day is an exploit.

People are using this exploit in blatant disregard for the servers they are guesting onto and for those who do not use this exploit to triple their ability to loot. This exploit has the potential to crash servers, not just the economy. After the Jormag event on my home server, chat was taking several minutes to post messages I was sending. It’s hurting the community as well.

After a recent Teq kill, I asked a member of the fight to stop guesting and lagging our server, their response was, “you think it only happens to your server. every server is experiencing this issue, and it’s not my problem..thanks though.” Though I didn’t appreciate the fact that s/he was unconcerned with the well-being of the server s/he was exploiting, their message is clear. Every server is experiencing this, and those who are exploiting servers to further their own gain, do not feel that they are at fault for it.

We need to send a clear message to these people, it is not okay to do this. It needs to be prevented somehow, and those who are aggressively and unmercifully exploiting the guesting mechanic need to be punished for it.