Guild Wars 2

With no official response regarding the matter, here’s my estimation of what this situation all comes down to.

Basically, the “feminist” of today isn’t looking so much for equality, as superiority. GW2’s lore/story direction seems be a visual representation of this. Not saying whomever is coming up with these ideas is a “feminist” per say, however, it does beg the question, why go to such lengths to blatantly denigrate male characters?

One would, or could not be accused of hyperbole by stating that this whole female-centric GW2/LS lore angle feels akin to retribution. It does indeed feel as if someone is trying desperately to get back at males anyway they can. In this case, using story writing

Its not so much due to the obvious quantity disparity, mind you, so much as its about quality of said male character development.

For every hyper intelligent, strong willed, cunning, courageous, and nearly perfect female character thus far introduced, (which tends to essentially describe every major female character introduced so far), there’s an equally inept, emotionally unstable, inexperienced, cowardly, or downright imbecilic male character counterpart.

At this point, whomever is writing this stuff isn’t even trying to be nonchalant about it, its becoming downright hostile. Am I wrong? Can we truly sit here and attempt to claim that the ratio between truly Heroic female and male characters in this game is even remotely balanced? Or, have I been looking at this all wrong.?

Are females the sole target audience for this game? Am I simply in a literal “no mans land”, and shouldn’t expect equal and fair treatment, (for bot genders), when it comes to RPG character development. Should I simply lower my expectations, and be happy with whatever meager lore scraps given by our benevolent writers? Or, should I simply dismiss GW2’s lore altogether?

I’d really like to hear from Anet about this. I really would, not that I’d expect to.

Anyways, Its worth keeping an eye on just to see how far these, or this individual writer(s) goes with this…and I hate to use the term…however, it certainly is starting to resemble an “agenda”, of sorts.

Lorelei.7809:

Thanks Pixelpumpkin! I added Tassi to my list

I find the characters competent in different ways. Braham is certainly competent.

My 2 cents on women, sports, fighting, emotions, yada, yada, yada and science. Unfortunately, you really hit a nerve (I am a female athlete and scientist).
1) human male and female anatomy, though different, and generally advantageous to men in sports, is very similar between genders, scientifically. In some sports, men and women compete equally. And women beat men. Even if men, scientifically, are better at something, it doesn’t make them so dramatically better that any man can beat any woman. Billy Jean King beat Bobby Riggs. I have beaten male opponents myself.

2) The human brain is the same between the two (in terms of research, etc, not talking hormonal)

3) You cannot dispute that women would not be equal to men in terms of magic ability. In fact, you could probably argue that they would be better at magic than men. Honestly, the only profession in the game that has an arguable male advantage (for humans assuming these human women have the same limitations as real-world humans) would be warrior as they do not use much magic nor does it depend on agility or subtlety (you do hear of a lot of women thieves). Men and women are both equally able to do the engineering profession. Note: This is regarding humans. Charr, Norn, Asura, and Sylvari have even less differentiation between the genders than humans do physiologically (Sylvari are the same, the shape is just different, Charr and Asura are the same between genders, Not sure about Norn, but certainly the Norn ladies are tough as nails – the men do not want weaker women so their strength then makes them far more equal, at the very least).

4) In terms of emotions, or whatever, men can also be brash and reckless. When men get brash and reckless, people can die (Snaff, for example – and Kralkatorrik is still around – and no matter what way you shake it, he maybe saved one person (she still may have lived) and he could have saved millions – I think the Queen would have been fine with dying if she knew he could have killed a dragon). When women get emotional, people often do not die.

5) As women are often weaker physically than their opponents they often use their mind to make up for it. How is it that women often become serial killers? They use poison. In other words, they are calculating.

Another note on emotion: Sometimes emotional can make you unpredictable which is an advantage in fighting.

In every instance where physical strength is seen as a key attribute in performance quality, (sports, military training, etc), we have two different and separate standards for qualification. Why do you suppose this is? If male and female anatomies were indeed so similar, (realistically, not just at a cellular level), then why is this the case?

Why are female military recruits allowed to join with lower physically qualification expectations than men? If human males and females are truly as physically similar as you make it out to be, then why do we still separate the two in ever major sport in the world, even golf…yes, even golf. NFL, World Soccer, MLB, NHL, World Basketball, NBA, Boxing, MMA, I could go on if you wish.

You’d think that, as similar as the two are, we’d be playing with each other, not separate, no? Personally, I cant wait till the reigning Women’s UFC champion takes on the Men’s champ. That should be entertaining. As well as enlightening.

I congratulate you on your accomplishments in athletics, I sincerely do, however, don’t make the mistake of truly believing that, when it comes to physical prowess, human males and females were created equal.

They were not.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Infamous, i think the latter is Kal’s meaning… Also, kal, kudos to the “random and pointless maths” that is exactly what this thread is about. Fake numbers to find something to be b*tthurt about.

Fake math huh…you, and this Kal’s agenda in this thread is clear as well. You have no reasonable argument, no leg to stand on, sort of speak, so you do the next best thing, you attack any and all opposing views, use snide comments, in order to belittle said posters, consequently making them appear uninformed, or foolish. Good show.

This, is exactly why the current political system in the US is as broken as it is. Instead of mutual conversation, we get discourse and animosity. Hope you’re proud of yourself.

Now, back to the topic at hand. I want you, to list every single empowered, ultra intelligent, nearly flawless female character introduced into this game since it went live. Afterwards, [bold]equally[/bold], (key word, don’t just gloss over it, as you’ve done thus far with other pertinent facts stated), impressive male characters. Then, use basic math. Then attempt to continue this disinformation crusade of yours.

I’ll wait.

tmakinen.1048:

A rifle operated by a woman is just as deadly as one operated by a man, strength doesn’t even enter the equation.

There’s a lot to which I could argue with regarding your post, however, this part I find the most, well, for lack of a better term, entertaining. Certainly, pulling a trigger is not difficult, and can be performed by anyone regardless of physical prowess, however…

Without going into specific detail, (since I do not want to derail this topic), let me just go ahead and dispute the latter part of that statement. Believe me, physical strength has a lot to do with military tactics/training/performance., and War.

What, you think soldiers just line up in opposing trenches, and shoot at each other till they run out of bullets, then simply go home? Never crossing that imaginary line that separates the two, therefore, never engaging in Hand to Hand combat?

Perhaps, you should do some more research yourself on military training/tactics, before making such refutably naive claims.

DarksunG.9537:

You stated this better than I did. Feminism’s extremely misunderstood history & effects aside, I thought for this whole year i was just taking things out of context or missing something. It wasn’t until I saw other people noticing it on the forums when I was like.. oh.. it is a thing.

Oh its quite real. Honestly, its more than obvious, its blatant. What’s astonishing about it, is that no stone was left unturned. Even f you skipped through every single dialogue piece involving main characters and your own you can still see/hear it at play by simply roaming through the various squares within Divinity’s Reach, and other major cities/towns/areas where large grps on npcs congregate.

I took some time recently just to roam around DR, and I noticed something startling.

At every point wherein you had two NPC’s having a seemingly casual conversation, (which involved both Male and Female NPC’s), the female always seemed to be the one in control of said convo. At minimum, always having the last word, at max, finding a why to snidely chide or belittle said male NPC for something he said.

You can sense the writers intent through and through. Clear as day.

Almost a mirror to said writers soul, conscience, and state of mind.