Guild Wars 2

Lightsbane.9012:

had some nice fights outside SF spawn in GOMBL until [eXo] went all tryhard and 1v5’d me twice.
:(

Good fight, good fight.

yanoch.7051:

I Monk For L O V E.7528:

yanoch.7051:

Where is the SF guild PvP?

They are no longer around members split into eXo and other guilds

Boo … I enjoyed fighting them so much.

eXo won’t disappoint. Even though we are smaller than PVP we pack a good punch and dive into zergs with only 3 members.

None Shall Pass also loves when we show up in all our slow glory.

Thanks for the praise. Indeed, let the good fights keep happening. If your interested in what things look like for eXo I have a youtube channel Verras The Best. Of course it’s made to make us look pro. I’m not going to add clips of us dying in 3 seconds. But, in case you’re curious.

Maybe, come reset we will still be facing off with each other or moved to a different server grouping. Until then, let’s keep having those fun fights!

Shoutout to all the zergs that have been killed by us and have killed us. I’d like to give my respect to BURN and PD of DH for having some fun small roaming groups to fight. As well as MoW[aka annoying invis thieves guild] and HARD for also for some good fights. Abys had some too but they are usually in a zerg or more than us.

Gonna be a bit sad [only a bit] when we move onto different server. ~eXo

Dark Magi.8947:

Hmmmm sorry for the quality, but WTF SF? Some one wants that camp. Treb, AC, Balista, think i saw a cata in there to not sure.

Hey, you missed our 6 rams on the well and 4 more acs on the ground. And you call yourself a photographer…

Jscull.2514:

Dude you get it for the most part. One thing ill say is that we aren’t saying full groups (this being 5 man in gw2) is the ONLY way to run. If you go back through months of PAXA posts you will find us saying numerous times that its appalling that there are 30-40 people in a Zerg none of which have the balls to venture outside of said Zerg and try actually challenging themselves against other players. It would be much more satisfying per night to people willing to compete on a smaller but more intellectually challenging level in Wvw. Like I said, I understand zergs will exist. We are saying 5-8 man guild groups should exist as well.

What skarloc said was true, when you make the decision to climb the ladder to the next rung of player vs player experience, most will find 2 things: 1. It is incredibly challenging 2. Incredibly rewarding when you achieve success beating other good players.

In my post I say that people assume. I never said that was PAXA’s view. Just what people would assume from your previous posts about zerging, such as this one right here, which you say everyone who zergs have no balls. It’s just an aggressive way to put your point out there which leads people to believe that PAXA thinks zerging shouldn’t exist. It’s all assumptions, my friend.

@Skarloc

I haven’t seen a post about you guys bragging about killing someone (excluding when provoked by false information). I am not saying you will, but some of your posts towards SF are quite aggressive and makes casual players or players in general to feel they are representing the server as a whole instead of as a 5 man. This puts more pressure on these small groups and some will see fit that the risk doesn’t meet the rewards and proceed to zerg.

Sometimes, zerging gets mindless, sometimes it is all about that 1 skill, indeed. But, to generalize it as everyone is unskilled that zergs is a bold statement and hits individually instead of at the concept of zerging. Thus all the rude comments and pairing XOXO and PAXA as basically the same type of guild. One that doesn’t like zergs, ones that think 5v5 is the only way you should WvW. As a few know that’s not what you are saying but we assume through these posts that is your views on the matter. You also got to realize that a lot of us find our thrill in zerg vs zerg combat rather than 5v5 combat. But, our numbers vastly outnumber you and this is why we want “to win” and move up tiers.

Indeed, you do post appropriately and with civility, at least most of the times that I’ve seen you post. This is not always the case with other members of PAXA though. To be honest I think PAXA and XOXO should put up some forum restrictions as PVP does. It doesn’t have to be strict, just something to enforce good forum etiquette (I know, XOXO and PAXA aren’t the only ones who stoke the fire on the forums as well. Just that I respect what your guilds are trying to do). It truly saddens me to see Varconi attacking one of my guildmates and my guild after posting a video (sorry for the call-out) I know Varconi can be reasonable but when you attack ones guilds or guildmates it gives your guild a bad reputation.

I came from Warhammer Online, Gorfang server, in the guild The War Council on destruction and we would run 6 to 10 people and fight zergs all day. It was really fun being apart of something small and not grand scale.

@ Nausicca

I think that zergs have more of the rude attitude via emotes because there are more people there. One person starts to /dance on a corpse and then others follow. They are most likely laughing at how you were alone at the wrong place, wrong time. I respect XOXO as a small man the guild and it’s 5 billion clones have a good strategy and 1v1 skills.

@ PAXA, XOXO, and zerglings alike.

WvW benefits zergs a lot. No one denies that. But, saying that small roaming groups only fit into sPvP is not only wrong but attacking the ideals that their guild was formed upon. So, when we say things like “go to sPvP if you want a fair fight.” It is actually an aggressive statement which provokes their “zergs are mindless, press 1” quotes and then 4 threads get closed. Small roam groups, stop supplies from reaching that camp, stop a few reinforcements trying to defend that tower, gain points via other means, and can through a zerg of course. They add a lot to the server and people should appreciate these groups and other small roaming groups you find as helping the server win.

Also, I’ll be roaming around SF BLs see if you can find the pink necro in full Dry bones skin hopping around but be warned I’m sporting a support spec and full cleric gear.

Edit: Feel free to whisper me in game for duels or just to chat.

Varconi.1804:

You realize that PAXA has offered help to anyone who was interested in trying to learn small group play? Promoting small group play is the goal of all those who enjoy this style.

As for the first part about pressing 1 to win and zergs being mindless, if you can tell me how pressing 1 in a zerg is not “mindless” I am ready to read a well thought out response. Some people play to relax and want a mindless experience we are reaching out to people who are interested in an engaging experience where every split second decision you make matters.

Well it’s not as simple as one would think, you got to analyze who’s down and what hp of downed they are at. Then you can correctly time your 1s for max efficiency of tagging them before they go down to increase your loot threshold. But, to be honest the ones in the front lines usually take the opponents out and the “1 pressers” are just tagging you for WXP and loot. Maybe 10 to 20 people do the work. Not going to say all zerg is skillful or not mindless just making a general statement to all those that zerg are mindless or have no skill is to broad and is personally targetted to every individual in zergs which make your statements aggressive.

@dank

If you are the only norn mesmer I’ve encountered you earlier this morning I believe with 2 other mesmers. I was the necro who was fighting the sentry in SF BLs as you fought 3 of my other servermates before turning to me to kill me. I fought you 3 a couple of times but 3 mesmers turn into 12 pretty quick (clones) and I usually get frustated and just jump around. But, if I find you on the fields I will keep in mind the /bow, /sit and jumping around. Didn’t know what signals you used to say you were looking for a dual or what not.

About PvP stigma, you are probably correct to assume there is more of us. I am aware that things may have gone down previous and you guys are defending or doing your own thing. I’m not expecting you guys to drop what you are doing to 1v1 me everytime I want it.

Also, after I find you and you pummel me to death in a 1v1, please whisper me with criticism and maybe some build choices or tactics to beat a certain class. Nothing to in depth as to give away your tactics or strategies. But anything would be helpful. I’ll signal it’s me by using /ponder or some strange emote.

EDIT: Off to bed, but I’m usually roaming around 12pm-7pm EST [maybe ending earlier due to reset night, I like to be in my warm fuzzy zerg ball on reset nights.]

I can’t wait to see who finally makes the final push for first, second or third. This matchup has been really close and as an ex-T8 member am glad to see such a close matchup.

As a T7 member, I wish I was apart of it, close match-up, friendly forum posts, 1 thread for the week not 5.

Anyways, keep me updated with the scores, most of us SF players are quite interested in how things in T8 are going.

I try to stray from the zergs during our servers downtime. I roam the battlefields sometimes by myself, sometimes with 2 of my guildmates and look for XOXO and PAXA members. To be honest I’m usually trying out specs and my 1v1 to 5v5 skills aren’t too good. I prefer 10v10 or 20v20 as my spec I am used to is huge group utility. But, whenever I find a PAXA group or XOXO group, I think ‘one of these members will give me a nice fair 1v1.’ I don’t know why I think that everytime probably because of forum posts. But, I get jumped by 3 to 6 members and die on the field all by my lonesome. Although, I think the reason being is that the people on the forums posting about loving fair small fights are not there and these are different people who’ve been zerged over and over again and are now out for blood. But since then I just avoid you guys now because I know 1v1s can’t be had in WVW (90% of the time). All is fair in WvW though, I’m not complaining about getting jumped by a lot of members just letting you guys know that some people are splitting from the zergs. I guess I’ll try to muster 4 more people and go searching for you guys again.

I also admire the kill and do not tell motto of PAXA. It makes me respect your guild more. But, I think XOXO and PAXA are trying to enforce their “split for the zerg and come fight us as small groups” a bit aggressively. Example: saying that “people who zerg are mindless”, “you guys just press 1 to win”, “get some skill and come 5v5.” Not exact quotes but the just of it. This not only aggravates people but also scares off some people who want to try roaming around and fighting you guys. It makes it seem like small man groups are for the elites of the elite and casual players have no place. I remember back in the day I would roam with 3/4 people and fight people but for the longest time the community made me feel like I was not worthy or skilled enough to try it. So I stayed with the zerg most of the time until I decided one day to try it. Also, it makes it seem like we (the small 5 man) are representing the whole server so if we lost badly the forums would blow up with “L0L SF sux look @ this 5 man we beat so ez didnt lose a member. h4h4 get some skill insert screenshot here”.

Just my thoughts on the matter, carry on.

osif.8673:

Verras.5013:

That video has to be the funniest mockery of SF I’ve seen on the forums to date. Sure, it’s a mockery and stuff take it at face value. No need to hate on it, it’s genuinely funny and I enjoyed the text. Made me laugh. Also, very wise choice of music.

Thank you for being a good sport and realizing it’s a joke. Not many other SF people get it most likely. Until now, possibly.

Some don’t have a sense of humour. When you started using all your skills randomly and the golem started taking the portals, made me almost die.

Also, to XOXO members in SF BLs right now, stahp my brain can’t process what ones real. 3 Mesmers all running clones there’s like 12 name plates. Now I know why no one fights you fairly, the annoyance of fighting one mesmer is trippled. Still, very good strat combining a bunch of mesmer clones with confusion. I just give up sometimes and start jumping around.

PS: Did I mention that fighting mesmers is annoying?

osif.8673:

I also tried this whole “winning” thing that everyone keeps mentioning and made a video of it for anyone interested. You guys are lucky I don’t care about winning or else you’d all be screwed!

http://youtu.be/KXR82wT3Bnk

That video has to be the funniest mockery of SF I’ve seen on the forums to date. Sure, it’s a mockery and stuff take it at face value. No need to hate on it, it’s genuinely funny and I enjoyed the text. Made me laugh. Also, very wise choice of music.

That seige at Bay in NSP Borderlands. Well setup and we just couldn’t break through. Good job defending that one.

Poet.3098:

Here’s a thought problem for you guys:

If wvw is in fact about this ephemeral thing which we call “fun,” and SF is having fun w/ the current state of affairs, but the other two servers are not since they lack the adequate bodies to compete, whose fun takes precedence? My fun or your fun?

One of the things that need to be brought up to all SF players. We are having fun, but in all honesty we are having it at others expense, thus hate is directed at us. All we can hope is that we move up a tier or HoD, NSP gather more members.

Although, from what I’ve seen from HoD and NSP this morning brought us to 100 PPT this morning. The journey to tier 6 may be harder than most SF thought. Was very surprising to me when I woke up.

Also, XOXO and PAXA saw some of your small mans running around today, very impressive burst you guys have. Wasn’t expecting to drop that quickly. Keep the good fights going.

Varconi.1804:

Pizz.3698:

Quick shout to the Splt group running around in SFBL, you guys are good to burst targets down, gotta give you that.

PAXA showed up, finally they left the forum and showed their faces. Didnt present anything though, lots of talk, not much to show.

Keep it going guys. Also, lol at HoD and NSP avoiding each other at Bluelake while facing us, sadly I missclicked and couldnt get the screenshot

Edit: bad spelling

If you need help with your clicking skills I would check out PvP I heard on forums they are well skilled in that.

We offer lessons, also it’s bring a friend week. 1 price to teach 2 people what a deal! Also check out our “How to press 1” class on Thursdays, it’s packed full of tips and tricks. Still getting that press 2 class down, we will let you guys know when it’s finished!

On a serious note, PVP are not here to tell you that we are the best or that we are always outnumbered. We are casual players who enjoy WvW and improving at it. We don’t practice small 5 man groups for WvW because in all honesty our numbers are overwhelming compared to NSP and HoD (Not as much as it was in T8 but still by quite a bit). So, their is little need for small group combat. Eventually we hope to be at a tier where zerg vs zerg is the main thing and not small roaming groups.

Now onto why SF cares about score. SF strives to reach the next tier because as you say our numbers are a factor in winning. However, not all of us are just mindless zombies (some are) but we are trying to win to move up tiers. Why? Because we want a good fair fight, it’s basic logic that the higher tier you are the more likely the active WvW community is. So eventually, SF will climb to a tier with an equal or more WvW population and we can strive to coordinate and innovate better. Nothing against NSP or HoD, but your numbers and tactics don’t differ to that of T8s. We have no need for our 3 skill yet, maybe that will come in tier 6?

TLDR: SF has more people and zergs than NSP and HoD. SF wants to go higher in tiers where our numbers are matched so we can find an even match ourselves.

Edited a few grammar errors, not all but some.

Pugs too hard. (Also, how can pugs be in a GvG if they aren’t in a guild or the same guild? Wouldn’t it be PvG?)

We aren’t gloating, the point of the video posted was to show that you guys can put out the numbers as well. In Bay keep the numbers NSP put out were insane. There’s more complexity to the 1 skill than you would first think, look at your first skill on a thief’s shortbow and think long and hard and maybe when you think you found the answer and look back on this video, you will finally understand. Also, not every skill is suitable for every situation, why would I switch to dagger/dagger on a thief if everyone is at range? Why would I blink into them with my 5 skill? I’ve given enough hints.

What benefits could stacking in a ball give? Why didn’t he need to use heals? Hmmmm.. I got to stop helping.

PVP stood against a zerg much larger than ourselves and killed quite a few of them. Yet, we never came here accusing them of having no skill, just pressing 1 all the time. However, no matter how many times we say that we have some skill or tactics you look at our zerg and say no skill, just numbers. So, keep complaining about our numbers, if numbers are the only thing that’s beating you maybe it’s time to re-evaluate your tactics.

On a sidenote, I wake up to a +100 PPT what happened last night or early morning!?

The first day, PVP decided to hit HoD due to none of us being there. Second day we split evenly between the two, third day we hit NSP and just today we hit NSP. We people in PVP and SF like to hit the person in second hard to keep their scores together thus putting the score gap ahead. Also, at the time HoD felt like they had a lot more numbers than NSP, sorry to see the dip in population.

All that aside, let’s talk about NSP BL tonight. The numbers of NSP out there tonight were outstanding. PVP tried to hold our ground but we got witled down until we were no more, this happened twice at bay and once at the supply camp. Not to mention all those arrow carts and seige inside the garrison, I must have had at least 1000 arrows sticking out of me at the end of that. Really solid defense guys. Even though we dropped we did our best. Keep it up NSP.

Also, to the HoD that descided to put a bunch of seige ontop of the roof vista in the north of NSP BL, way to crash 80% of our games by firing all that seige at once. Was really fun though trying to get to you, hiding from the seige. Was really funny indeed, too bad none of us got to see it through (I understand that some of you crashed as well?) .

SF is very adaptable. Many of us will put aside differences for the common good to achieve victory. Whether it be by small-man groups, large zergs, or seige. We will pull through. If you have a problem with the number of people or size of our zergs wish us happy travels as we try to push tier 6.

But, what fun is that? Letting your opponents get a free pass? Most of NSP and HoD forces are out there battling these large numbers. Some victorious others not so lucky. I have deep respect for those players. Instead of saying 5v5 me or 1v1 me and we’ll see who’s the best! They’re out there going “where are the most SF to kill today?” “Let’s show these SF they are on our territory.” Those are the guys you’re small man groups should join. If you have 5 small man guilds with around 10 people on each. That’s 50 people that you say are more skilled than that of equal numbers. So, 50 more skilled people should be able to wipe our 50 man zerg easy. However, not saying you should do this, just thought it would be a cool idea for the small roaming guilds to try out. If you prefer looking for small fights all the power to you! If SF rolls in way to big parties maybe try finding fights with NSP or HoD?

SF has a mean WvW population now that we are out of T7 many of us are aiming for higher in the tier list. Eventually, we will meet servers with the same WvW population and that’s when SF can prove that we aren’t as skill-less as many thought. Until then let’s keep the good fights going!

About corpse dancing, it’s going to happen. Especially if people have a grudge against another. Although if I have a grudge against you: I will spike you, if I honour you I will attack you while you suffer on the ground until you drop dead, if I see that you have great potential I will allow you to live.

This is all MY own opinion. Props to Os, NSP [guild], LK, and many other players and guilds for trying to put shackles around SF’s feet and pull us down. It’s been a blast.

Also, for how many numbers the PVP guild fields, it may surprise you once you find out.

@Flerch.4817
Was a fun duel to watch. To be honest my spec and build are really bad for small groups, 1v1-5v5. Or else I would have tried to duel you. Our zerg gets pretty big when randoms start following us, but we like to look for the most action and so do they.

Maybe, in the future we can have a drink of tea, chat, then rip each other apart.

Real time with Verras! Okay, SF does have a lot of numbers, no denying that. Are we skill-less? No, we do have a lot of people under leveled who enjoy WvW and want to roll with a commander, whatever it’s their way of having fun. Also, due to these numbers many of us level 80, I know in PVP especially are geared and skills are slotted for zerg combat and thus we do not do enough damage in 1v1 to 5v5 (we like fighting groups with larger numbers than us).

So, many of us are still working on getting another set for a roam build. Some of us do respect 1v1s, I seen an XOXO thief fighting an ele 1v1 and I let it be until our ele went down then I interfered and chased the thief off (not going to let my teammate get finished 1v1 or not). It’s all about playstyle, XOXO likes to duel and have small skirmishes, to be honest you’re more likely to find those in NSP borderlands. When I’m running around by myself I usually take a few supply camps and enemies will naturally come to you.

VLK we had a nice 5v5(?) in EB jump puzzle in the dark room. I got lost so many times! Was a blast, we haven’t got a chance to face your guild yet but are looking forward to it. LK can really put out the numbers same with the Os guild. Many good fights were had with Os and LK. Also, that Os commander that jumps off the wall and stomps on the rams, I despise you so, it was an annoying tactic that stalled us.

Hope to see more fights on the battlefield.

Thanks Ping, we’ve had many fun battles in T7 and it always makes us happy to hear good things about us. I hope the good fights keep on coming it’s been a blast!

I’m rooting for you ET and FC! Also, fun fight on the day before reset AGG form PVP we loved that one strat with your guardians boxing us in with line of warding then pummeling our faces. May your hammers find new blood.

Also Yarr, I respect your small man group a ton, so much infact if I’m running solo or without a squad I’ve learned to go around. Especially one of your thieves that lives in the ruins. You guys are very mean in small group combat.

Some of you may rejoice that the thread match-up forums are still complaining about our numbers. Also, keep posting score updates many of us in SF are wondering how you guys are doing.

Score update for those curious.

@Jace
I laughed so hard at that video. How you were setting up a portal bomb then BAM! we were all there. Good fight indeed. Can’t win them all. Keep up the good fight!

@Vash
You wouldn’t believe how many SF were looking for FC to kill when the red ring appeared on supply camps/keeps.

Was fun fights for solid hours! Glad to be moved up into this tier (finally). Hope the fights continue!