Guild Wars 2

Egon Vidar.9125:

bullyrook.2165:

Vexander.9850:

Allow me to put it this way. Sylvari are not homosexual. They’re pansexual. The entire race is pansexual. Having a male Sylvari in a relationship with another male Sylvari isn’t a homosexual relationship. Its a pansexual relationship, because both individuals are pansexual.

And this makes them undesirable to you as representatives to your persuasion… how again?

He just said. Because they’re not homosexual. It is not a representation or inclusion of homosexuality if the characters are not homosexual.
Take it from an actual pansexual.

My relationship with my wife, for example, is not a representation of heterosexuality because neither of us are heterosexual, even if we are male and female.

No matter how much I’d like to see a male/male sylvari relationship, it would only be inclusion, really, for pansexuals, because it’s representing a male/male pansexual relationship (unless a gay person decides to count it as inclusion on an individual basis, it varies between people, the OP is not in this boat). And unless it’s very explicitly stated that for some reason those two particular sylvari really do prefer males for some reason, and I don’t really see Anet getting that specific any time soon. This is why he’s asking for humans, because they don’t default to pansexual, and it’s much more likely a male/male relationship with them would be heavily implied to be homosexual instead of bisexual or pansexual.

Hopefully I have explained this concisely and clearly.

Quite Eloquently, thank you for the assistance =)

Likewise, I’d prefer humans for the gay male/s NPC/s for the additional fact that its easier to relate to humans. I’d be happy with just one openly gay human male. He doesn’t need to be in a relationship, he doesn’t need to be, ‘obviously gay,’ or drag his orientation into the story at all. A little dialogue option when the character is introduced wherein its made clear he prefers the male gender is all I’d honestly like to see.

I wouldn’t want to see this character hitting on random men, trying to get into a relationship, or really doing anything more than his job and attempting to survive in a world that stands on the brink of destruction due to the ancient, eldritch threat that is the Elder Dragons. The fact he is gay is something in the background, its a part of his character, and which has absolutely no bearing on what he does in the story, or the plot.

That’s really all I would ask for.

If I don’t get that? Oh well, too bad. The game is still fun to play, and the story is still worth following. I won’t be upset or start a riot or something. I won’t blame A.net for not bringing a character like that into prominence in the story. It’s far easy to portray female homosexuals than male homosexuals given who their audience is, and ultimately, this game is part of a business, so they’ll be expected to do what makes them money.

Yojimaru.4980:

Vexander.9850:

Fluffball.8307:

My wife finished GW1 with a competent ele. The only interest she’s ever shown in GW2 has been when I told her there was a gay male couple in beta. We’re in a very liberal US state, and we both are as well, so that really perked her interest in the game.

Just sayin’, in case Anet is interested in selling to females…

Must have been the two Sylvari. They’re the only male couple I’m aware of in the game. Which is a bit of a shame, but let’s be honest, when the world is facing the apocalypse, I don’t think people are typically going to be too worried about their dating life.

I’ve heard murmurs of there being a gay male Norn npc in one of the Vigil story lines for Norn, but I’ve not personally done it myself. The npc is Wjerd Bladeborn, whom might have a crush on Fibharr Ygosson based on his dialog, or perhaps he’s implying that Fibharr has a crush on Famke the Fair instead.

To my knowledge there aren’t that many gay male npcs. You really have to look hard to find what few there are, and just about all of them are locked behind personal story choices that you might not even take. I can however count at least 5 gay female npcs quite readily. There are of course the big four; Caithe, Faolain, Marjory and Kasmeer. There is also a widowed female Charr named Fronis Darkstone in Diessa Plateau who tells the story of how her mate was killed by the Flame Legion. (She only has this dialog when she isn’t patrolling Ebonshore Plant) Sariel could also be interpreted as being in a relationship with Faolain. She gets very thorny about the prospect of Faolain wanting Caithe back.

I’d love for there to be a prominent male pairing that isn’t shown once and then promptly forgotten about (I.E. personal story), or just a case of fandom crack shipping. (no matter how much some of us may want it, Logan and Rytlock will never be a thing…)

Honestly I could see Rytlock and Rox getting together. They seem like they’d make a pretty good pair. But yeah, there aren’t many male NPCs that you can tell are actually homosexual. Its never bothered me though. If the defining trait of a character is their sexuality, then you have a weak character in terms of narrative and development. That’s why I’ve always liked how Arena.net has done their relationships. Caithe and Faolin aren’t defined by loving one another. Kasmeer and Marjory aren’t -defined- by being a couple. Its a part of their character, but both are highly developed beyond that.

The way I’d go about it would be to have a new major character who is male and homosexual to have some dialogue options. Take the one I suggested earlier, the really scholarly guy.

“So, you’re a Loremaster? I bet that leaves little time to go to the taverns and find someone special.”
[If the PC is Male]: “Why go to taverns when I get to work with handsome men like you? Ha! Don’t worry, I’m not actually interested in you. You’re not quite my type, no offense meant.”
[If the PC is Female]: “True, but the kind of men I find attractive don’t tend to frequent taverns.”