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Poll: Is Season 1 a disappointment?

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Season 1 is history now and I guess I should be expecting no further input. This means it’s time to make the final conclusions. The phrase ‘appealling idea but appalling execution’ would fit the best to sum up all the votes. And of course the Season should never have started before the major inherent WvW issues were addressed.
But the final touch (i.e. the achievement reward) was admirable, imho. Not worthless, yet not posh.
I’d like to thank once again all of you who participated in this poll and I hope it was of a help to anybody else.

Poll: Is Season 1 a disappointment?

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Posted by: Vimtor.5483

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First of all I’d like to thank everyone who has contributed to this poll whether you disagreed with me or not.

Not the best place to do a poll like that, people on the forums tend to whine about everything.
If you really want an objective post, go into WvW itself, ask around during many times of day and night and get statistics from there…

Actually I read and heard way more curses in game (and especially in Teamspeak) than before after the start of Season 1. I also saw a lot of people who just didn’t care about scoring points, they were out there farming their achievements. Even some of our best commanders were disgruntled by Season 1 (I heard them talking in TS). There were also indirect signs of disappointment: queues were mostly long gone and TS was growing silent.
All that made me thinking about a forum poll despite its downsides.

Sad part is, they dont care. Expect it to get rammed down our throats again, players are not part of the process in this game.

Anet either doesn’t have single clue about competitive gaming or they simply don’t care.

That’s exactly my point, to help ANet care. I doubt that they don’t care. It’s just a very tricky task to bring everyone together in a fight against each other and to please everyone (both nerds who play 24/7 and casual players alike; those who play just for fun and those who play to compensate for real life; those who consider grinding fun and those who seek challenge, etc.). No MMO game has succeded in it so far.
But what really puzzles me is how ANet managed to mess up the season schedule so much. It only takes basic mathematics to do it properly while irritation of players was so predictable.

Do we already have official responses?

Not yet.

I just wanted to inform you that, while your sentiment is understandable, from psychological standpoint your question is rigged and thus the whole poll is useless for any reasonable consideration.

This poll shows the authors bias with a loaded question and title that would deter people who would disagree from speaking and don’t feel like its representative to the game population as a whole that don’t even come to the forums…

I’m aware of the framing effect. But any simple random sampling is likely to more or less unrepresentative when the sample is very small as compared to the population. I believe the framing effect won’t contribute much to the initial distortion. And even if it will that doesn’t make this poll useless at all. Besides, strictly speaking anything I post as OP can change the way people respond. Furthermore, seeing other people’s votes also may change the way people would vote. So it can’t be perfect anyway.

…especially when you have a “neutral” count for people that found some fault, but did not voice agreement that season 1 was as a failure. Its either they said it was a failure or they didn’t, how they evaluated and expressed their thoughts on improvement is irrelevant.

Neutral votes are those that can’t really be decided, pros and cons balance out each other. Some ambiguity is inevitable when people don’t just say ‘Yes’ or ‘No’. But if a person clearly stated that he disagreed I never reckoned it as a ‘neutral’ vote even if a list of improvements followed.

Poll: Is Season 1 a disappointment?

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I guess people need to open their reward chests to make up their minds.

Poll: Is Season 1 a disappointment?

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Alas, WvW feels demotivating as never before (since the very launch of the game). Personal skills and coordination within group still have a miserable impact on the outcome of the battle. And still there is no means to punish the players who ruin teamplay (like kicking from server, for example, or banning for awhile, or any other). I consider myself a casual gamer and too often I feel like I’m wasting my time joining WvW. I find no fun in running around hoping that the zerg I encounter is smaller than mine because numbers are the only thing that actually matters in Guild Wars 2 WvW.

And introduction of Season 1 has taken the flaws to the extreme. Borderlands are flooded with people (resulting in long queues) who refuse to play the way WvW is meant to be played (i.e. capturing fortresses and defending them) but rather farm sentries, drain resources from their own keeps, chase lone enemy Assaulters and Generals or doing something similarly useful in hope to get the Season 1 achievement and leave WvW for good. And of course the servers with larger WvW population (especially at nights and early mornings) unevoidably win. Let alone the weird championship schedule favourable to some and unfavourable to other servers.

I’m not just theorizing. My server had both defeats (and it was no fun being helplessly wiped by bigger zergs all the time) and triumphs (which was no fun either since wiping smaller blobs involved no challenge at all, felt like a boring grinding).

I’ve seen a number of threads on the forum complaining about either Season 1 or current WvW state in general. And I’ve read some soothing replies from ArenaNet saying that they are working on the problems. But this clumsy championship with it’s awkward achievement motivation makes me wonder if making WvW fun and fair is their priority at all.

That said I’d like to make a poll of a sort. To concentrate the rumble in one thread and hopefully get heard and thoroughly answered by ArenaNet senior developers.

And here’s the bottomline: “The Season 1 is a failure overall”. Do you agree?

PS.
Hooray! We’ve reached 150 votes!.

As of 150 votes:
63% (94 votes) – agreed
30% (45 votes) – disagreed
7% (11 votes) – stayed neutral

41 posts were not votes or were extending previous vote post by the same author.

Comments:
There’s been a few speculations about how I determine votes and I feel I need to do some clarification to stop them. If a vote is given explicitly (i.e. ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’) it is counted the way it was given. If people didn’t give their vote explicitly but mentioned that they had fun (enjoyed it, can’t wait the next season, etc.) that it would be a ‘disagree’ and if they said that they had no fun (were bored, quit WvW, were kitten ed off, etc.) than it would be an ‘agree’ vote. After all, the main criterion was fun. If a person enumerates some cons and pros without voting explicitly or stating personal attitude than I count this as a ‘neutral’ vote, same as if someone explicitly says he’s ‘neutral’.

Conclusions:
The actual picture is even less pleasing for ANet than the numbers above suggest. Only 18 (out of 45 voters who “disagreed” and merely 12% of the total number of votes) were enthusiastic enough to admit they were completely satisfied. The rest, although still disagreed, rolled out a list of corrections that are necessary or highly wanted.

Top 3 problems people refer to in WvW S1:
1. Server coverage imbalances
2. Poor match-ups
3. Poor achievement choice & achievement hunting
Surprisingly almost none mentioned Season rewards as a reason to agree. Luckily all the whining about it is going on in another thread.

But bear in mind that the current statistics could be unrepresentetive due to the low number of votes compared to whole WvW population.

PPS.
Referring to one of the posts I’d like explain it here at the very beginning that this is not a whining thread. This is a feedback thread. When a new product (Season 1 in our case) arrives to the market the company that launched it needs a feedback to improve it or withdraw.
Besides, gamers need such organized feedback too to make themselves heard and possibly get in touch with those who responsible for strategic decisions about what the game should be like in the future.
If some of us consider Season 1 a failure, a disappointment, a disaster why don’t we give ANet another chance before moving on to rival games.

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