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And when asked for an alternative means of expressing that they are females, the example offered is “give them something a stereotypical woman would have, like a bow or a kitchen utensil”? I’m sorry but I’ve been in this discussion since the beggining and have tried to be fair in my responses, but its starting to look like the issue is less about gender equality and more about disliking the female form being on display at all.
So using the physical features of a woman is sexist, giving them all cooking equipment is progressive?
I officially don’t understand feminism anymore.
Again, we’ve seen them in action and their feet don’t get in the way.
Had to edit it to clarify I meant the designer who made the fem-bot model.
Half this thread seems to be about how some of us are sexist. I’m pretty okay with the bots. If they were bartenders, like someone mentioned above. A bartender is fine to anthropomorphize. Give them big butts, give them nipples, give them high heels. It’s fine. Perhaps a bit in bad taste since it implies a sexualized angle and that maybe they were built anatomically correct but hey, s’fine.
I’m just on the whole angle of big fighter warrior. If they are for war, why the nipples, why the well formed butt, why the high heels? None of these help for war. Why the innards half showing?
It’s just that for warriors they really don’t look that warriorsome.
Weird, we have to switch sides here. I would ABSOLUTELY have an issue if they were bartenders.
I understand some people had that reaction to Buffy, and I must admit there are one or two episodes that I deem questionable myself, but on the whole its hard to argue Buffy is, akittens core, a sexist show.
I brought up Buffy for the exact reason that some people had similar views on the show that people are using here, and they have been debated from every which angle, and in the end MOST advocates of feminism agree that a depiction of a strong, powerful, beautiful woman kicking kitten is a positive image for women. And again, the buffy-bot example seems particularly apt.
And there’s a difference between reacting to something and wanting it censored. These robots are Queen Jennahs artistic message to the world of her image of herself (snip)
I agree, that a depiction of a strong, powerful woman kicking kitten is a positive image for women. The ‘beautiful’ bit is unnecessary, but how do you create an ugly femmebot? Maybe if it didn’t have the heels, but kept the other feminine aspects it wouldn’t have rung so many bells.
What you’ve just said about Jennah’s message about her image of herself is fascinating to me. I usually evaluate game content by what the designers want to say, but looking at what the NPC wanted is interesting. Maybe the heels are Jennah’s way of expressing that she’s hobbled by the image she has to present of herself.
Well, that’s just how I perceive it. In game, Jennah commisioned these. I try and picture why she opted for the design choices she did (in canon) and they make sense to me. In the same way I understand how my Toons are representative of what image I want to portray.
Whether or not the design choices make functional sense is irrelevant. They work as intended, despite any design choices, we’ve seem them in action.
What can be questioned in why the design was chosen from an artistic perspective, what the queen is trying to show to the other races about humanity.
To me, they’re modelled after Amazonians. Would you prefer if she surrounded herself with hulky half dressed man bots?
They’re not sex bots. They’re dangerous warriors intended to defend the realm. Why is it a bad thing that these defenders were modelled after women? Is Xena a bad example too, should she have been Male?
Because your ‘dangerous warriors’ are made with a huge and well formed butt, nipples, and fight on heels. ON HEELS!
YES! LET US SEND OUR DANGEROUS WARRIOR BOTS TO FIGHT THE CENTAUR! ON HIGH HEELS! OVER RUGGED TERRAIN!
It makes perfect sense. I’m not sure about who designed these bots, but I worry about you, son. And your team leaders who said to go ahead and make high heeled, big butted, nippled fem-bots.
As I was saying, we run the risk of retreading old ground (the practicality of the robots was discussed in great length earlier, with good points on both sides) and insulting / making fun of the side we disagree with gets us nowhere.
And apologies for typos, writing on my phone!
To be honest, I think the thread runs the risk of repeating itself, the same argumebts are likely to be brought up time and time again.
And the end of the day, we’re discussing an artistic choice, which can be perceived in a multitude of ways. Some people will see these as overly sexualised and demeaning as a resilt. Others will see these as female avatars drafted by a powerful women to represent her own influence. I can see it from both angles, and I know which I think was intended and I personally subscribe to, but others will always disagree.
Whether “sexy” (I use quotations as I don’t find them exactly a turn on, others might) female characters can be viewed as powerful or respected and whether their nature makes them open to being objectified is a wide topic where there’s plenty of grey areas. To dismiss one side of the aegument or the other as people being prudes or being childish / misogynistic isn’t doing the debate justice.
Perhaps we should discuss what we think would have been a more appropriate design choice? Its easy to critisize and hard to create. Personally a more seraphim design, like the kind you’d see aon the figure head of a warship, might jave lead to less controversy. I still wouldn’t like to censor the original artist or enforce the design upon them, as I’d take the current design over a bland sea of andronginous c3p0 wannabes, but I could see the merit in that as an alternate initial choice.
I understand some people had that reaction to Buffy, and I must admit there are one or two episodes that I deem questionable myself, but on the whole its hard to argue Buffy is, akittens core, a sexist show.
I brought up Buffy for the exact reason that some people had similar views on the show that people are using here, and they have been debated from every which angle, and in the end MOST advocates of feminism agree that a depiction of a strong, powerful, beautiful woman kicking kitten is a positive image for women. And again, the buffy-bot example seems particularly apt.
And there’s a difference between reacting to something and wanting it censored. These robots are Queen Jennahs artistic message to the world of her image of herself and humanity.
Ypu’re allowed to dislike the aesthetics. Labelling it as inherintely sexist doesn’t seek to have much merit, for the reasons a lot of posters have outlined, but our best points get ignored in favor of pursuing straw dogs. Did anyone even watch the link city pidgeon put up?
I agree that they are robots and it doesn’t make sense for them to have all the qualities of a human. However, that is also why I don’t think it makes sense for them to be fully sexualized in the same way a human is.
I also agree that the concept of having robots with a feminine figure reflects the empowering qualities of Queen Jennah, but it crosses past that because they are not elegant feminine figures the same way that Jennah is, but instead are modeled after a completely naked woman (well, unless you count the heals). Jennah may utilize her sexuality as part of what makes her powerful, but she doesn’t do so by walking around topless in front of everyone.
In other words, the core concept behind what was likely intended behind these characters was great, but poorly implemented because they don’t say “you can be a good fighter while also being feminine.” It’s a delicate balance, I know, but it’s the difference between why Buffy the Vampire Slayer is often heralded for it’s female empowerment, but something like Chainsaw Lollipop isn’t.
So, because they’re TOO feminine, they’re displaying that they’re less powerful than if they had more “conservative” metal “clothing”? Even though they’d have the exact same fighting prowess? To me, that’s implying that being beautiful and feminine somehow implies weakness. I don’t think that’s true.
Buffy the Vampire slayer was created by a male. She wore a disproportionate amount of tight fitting pants. She fought monsters in what could be considered inappropriate attire for the situation, and she was far too slight and thin for the powers she possessed. In canon, her and the other slayers were created by a group of men for the sole purpose of defending others, at the cost of her life. Using the same logic as this thread, she would be considered a deeply sexist and misogynistic fantasy.
But instead she’s held up an icon for female empowerment, because she was a strong, capable, layered human being who is to be respected. These are robots, so they don’t have a personality of their own, we only have the personality of the woman who commissioned them, and she ticks all those same boxes.
Buffy faced a similar situation when Warren was creating sex bots; they were disgusted by it, they stole the technology and used it to create Buffy-Bot, who served a similar function to the watch knights while Buffy was busy being dead again.
They weren’t outraged that someone would make a robot look beautiful, but they were massively outraged at one made simply to serve sexual whims and fantasies. Rightly so. Reconfigured to fight the good fight? not so much of an outrage.
And we’re only assuming these robots were initially drawn by a man. My fiance posted a rather lengthy post earlier, about her experiences as a female artist; she draws idealized feminine characters, because that’s what she enjoys looking at. To me, she is an idealized female character herself, but should I tell her that she’s not allowed to draw “sexualised” females as it might offend someones sensibilities? Should I make her go through all her toons and give them more battle appropriate outfits?
Or does she have every right to express herself and create something she enjoys, in the same was a game developer does?
Again, if these were robots designed to make sandwhiches and kitten the locals, I’d be on the other side of the fence completely. But they’re just not.
Very nice. I considered mentioning Buffy in my post but it wouldn’t have really fit with what I said. Good work.
Thanks! I like to try and mention Buffy AT LEAST once in every discussion I have. Sometimes makes it difficult to order in a resteraunt. I usually try and go places that serve rabbit, so I can sing about how it must be bunnies. Or maybe midgets.
I agree that they are robots and it doesn’t make sense for them to have all the qualities of a human. However, that is also why I don’t think it makes sense for them to be fully sexualized in the same way a human is.
I also agree that the concept of having robots with a feminine figure reflects the empowering qualities of Queen Jennah, but it crosses past that because they are not elegant feminine figures the same way that Jennah is, but instead are modeled after a completely naked woman (well, unless you count the heals). Jennah may utilize her sexuality as part of what makes her powerful, but she doesn’t do so by walking around topless in front of everyone.
In other words, the core concept behind what was likely intended behind these characters was great, but poorly implemented because they don’t say “you can be a good fighter while also being feminine.” It’s a delicate balance, I know, but it’s the difference between why Buffy the Vampire Slayer is often heralded for it’s female empowerment, but something like Chainsaw Lollipop isn’t.
So, because they’re TOO feminine, they’re displaying that they’re less powerful than if they had more “conservative” metal “clothing”? Even though they’d have the exact same fighting prowess? To me, that’s implying that being beautiful and feminine somehow implies weakness. I don’t think that’s true.
Buffy the Vampire slayer was created by a male. She wore a disproportionate amount of tight fitting pants. She fought monsters in what could be considered inappropriate attire for the situation, and she was far too slight and thin for the powers she possessed. In canon, her and the other slayers were created by a group of men for the sole purpose of defending others, at the cost of her life. Using the same logic as this thread, she would be considered a deeply sexist and misogynistic fantasy.
But instead she’s held up an icon for female empowerment, because she was a strong, capable, layered human being who is to be respected. These are robots, so they don’t have a personality of their own, we only have the personality of the woman who commissioned them, and she ticks all those same boxes.
Buffy faced a similar situation when Warren was creating sex bots; they were disgusted by it, they stole the technology and used it to create Buffy-Bot, who served a similar function to the watch knights while Buffy was busy being dead again.
They weren’t outraged that someone would make a robot look beautiful, but they were massively outraged at one made simply to serve sexual whims and fantasies. Rightly so. Reconfigured to fight the good fight? not so much of an outrage.
And we’re only assuming these robots were initially drawn by a man. My fiance posted a rather lengthy post earlier, about her experiences as a female artist; she draws idealized feminine characters, because that’s what she enjoys looking at. To me, she is an idealized female character herself, but should I tell her that she’s not allowed to draw “sexualised” females as it might offend someones sensibilities? Should I make her go through all her toons and give them more battle appropriate outfits?
Or does she have every right to express herself and create something she enjoys, in the same was a game developer does?
Again, if these were robots designed to make sandwhiches and kitten the locals, I’d be on the other side of the fence completely. But they’re just not.
The misconception that a lot of people seem to be making here is that it’s not inherently problematic to show women as having sexual or aesthetically pleasing qualities. However, it becomes problematic when it is done in a way, so as to objectify and diminish the other qualities of that person.
For anyone that is truly interested in learning more about this topic and isn’t here to simply defend their world view with straw man arguments, ad hominem, cherry picking, etc., you may be interested in the following link: http://www.feministfrequency.com/tag/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
What a nice roundabout what of calling everyone who disagrees with you ignorant, without acknowledging their arguments. I’m not saying you’re being passive aggressive, but it definitely could be construed that way.
How have these robotic beings been objectified or diminished? They are capable fighters, are they not? are they not respected in their defined construction?
I studied politics, and feminism was a topic that was covered in great depths, and funnily enough a woman’s choice of footwear never came up. Nor a robots, for that matter.
Personally I think the problem here is a lot of people equate sexuality with sexism. Joss Whedon would like a word with you.
Wisdom comes from acknowledging ignorance, so I’m sure anyone who doesn’t want to admit that will probably take that the wrong way. If so, they weren’t the intended audience of that statement.
As for your last statement, that is exactly in line with what I said. I don’t have a problem with the fact that these NPCs have such qualities, but rather that unlike characters in a Joss Whedon film, these characters don’t have anything else to them (aside from being able to fight). They are essentially objectified.
This is why I don’t see Norn females as inherently problematic, even though the have a highly sexualized aspect to them. They are acknowledged as thinking, feeling people with valid opinions and perspectives.
They are objectified in the sense that they are objects, yes. They don’t have feelings or emotions, because they are robots. Not because they are female robots; they would be as unthinking and unfeeling no matter what they wore, or what shape they took.
They are an extension of Jennah herself, the army she wanted to guard her people. To her, they reflect the best of her people, and of herself, like the statues of ancient Greece or Rome.
The fact that she decided to model them on a female form is testament to her position as a strong female leader. She’s showing that you don’t have to be male, or bulky, or coated in armor to have power. She’s an example of this herself, as she’s none of those things and still one of the most powerful people on the face of Tyria.
The misconception that a lot of people seem to be making here is that it’s not inherently problematic to show women as having sexual or aesthetically pleasing qualities. However, it becomes problematic when it is done in a way, so as to objectify and diminish the other qualities of that person.
For anyone that is truly interested in learning more about this topic and isn’t here to simply defend their world view with straw man arguments, ad hominem, cherry picking, etc., you may be interested in the following link: http://www.feministfrequency.com/tag/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
What a nice roundabout what of calling everyone who disagrees with you ignorant, without acknowledging their arguments. I’m not saying you’re being passive aggressive, but it definitely could be construed that way.
How have these robotic beings been objectified or diminished? They are capable fighters, are they not? are they not respected in their defined construction?
I studied politics, and feminism was a topic that was covered in great depths, and funnily enough a woman’s choice of footwear never came up. Nor a robots, for that matter.
Personally I think the problem here is a lot of people equate sexuality with sexism. Joss Whedon would like a word with you.
This is starting to get a little out of hand.
In game, a strong, attractive female leader decided to make a queens guard to mirror herself. That makes sense, and if anything should be seen as the opposite of sexism; they could have made muscular male robots instead (and if they did I can guarantee they would be as “sexualised” as their current female counterparts.)
Now, the fact that they have an “idealised” human figure, is simply because they wanted something to represent an “idealised” version of humanity. Jennah’s showing off how enduring and triumphant the human race is, and to do this she’s made intimidating and, yes, beautiful avatars to represent this. I don’t think we can compare this to the airbrushed models we see in fashion magazines (which I too, am against) because those magazines try and portray their edited human figures as realistic. Nobody could argue the same of clockwork robots.
I honestly don’t see the sexualisation of them. They’re idealised in the same way Michaelangelo’s David is, or the creation of Adam. Buffy wore some “provocative” outfits during her run, as did Xena, and Leia, Sarah Connor, Elen Ripley; I don’t think human sexuality is something that demeans someone, or should be avoided. Should all women in Guild Wars wear veils? Should women not be allowed to wear high heels when they decide they want to visit a club?
If these were kitchen servants I’d be totally on your side here. But these are the defenders of the realm, and they’re beautiful and deadly. To me that’s a strong portrayal of women, and if I’m wrong about that, then I clearly don’t understand feminism anymore.
To me, they’re modelled after Amazonians. Would you prefer if she surrounded herself with hulky half dressed man bots?
They’re not sex bots. They’re dangerous warriors intended to defend the realm. Why is it a bad thing that these defenders were modelled after women? Is Xena a bad example too, should she have been Male?
Lol oh god this is actually a little funny. How about we make it a kitten vs king kong?
We’re not talking about a gorilla vs a puma, or a leopard, or whatever the kitten else. We’re talking about two fictional creatures. You could call up any number of real life feline vs ape scenarios to support both sides and it’ll still be meaningless. In game my Asuras solo’d giants, and no “little person vs ape” line of reasoning will take that away from him.
Unarmed, I give it to the norn. Though technically smaller (IN GAME, fact, test it) they seem to have better weight distribution and probably hit like trucks. They could probably withstand a few scrapes and cuts from the Charr before smashing a skull.
With weapons? Well, what weapons? I see the Charr as more agile, when dealing with decent blades, hulk smash, hulk bash strength counts for a lot less than speed and precision.
Basically, I think it’s obvious Norn are stronger in general, but it all comes down to what the two individuals of each species have trained in, and what weapons they have available at the time. It’d probably come down more to their profession than their race.
Just an update; I got the I5 3470 with a 7870, and it runs ultra perfectly, even in WvW zergs I’ve not seen a drop below 40 fps. 100+ in open world! Such a massive step up from my old system. No input lag either, although my old computer seems better on that front too, so maybe that’s due to an update.
Thank you all for your advice, I’m very pleased with my purchase.
To be honest, it was the other way around. I was hoping someone could talk me into the FX 6300 and save me some money! Both systems are within my budget, but I was hoping to save a little cash if I could get similar performance.
But I put in the order this morning for the I5 3470 with a 7870.
Fingers crossed for WvW performance! ^-^
Hey, if I were gonna get it I’d run with a 7870; problem is everyone says the fx 6300 doesn’t have the single core performance to handle gw2 in big events. I’m probably getting an I5 instead, which is a dissapointment cos the 6300 is such a good price.
Oh yeah I said earlier I plan to turn settings down in WvW anyway. I’d take everything on lowest settings if I could still see what was going on during a zerg.
I’ve been getting a lot of input lag on my current set up to, even in pve. I’m hoping thats the rig more the servers, although I’m dubious cos it used to run fine in PvE.
I Think I’m gonna opt for the I5 3470 with a 7870; I’ve heard ok things in a seperate thread about 6300 performance wise, but for a couple less trips to the pub I kight as well take the safe bet.
If world v world is still dropping to less than 10 fps I’m gonna be kittened! Lol
Thanks for the advice!
This is all actually quite reassuring; I’ve read a lot of bad stuff about this cpu; do you think you’d get a massive boost from switching to an I5?
Amd fx 6300 cpu.
Firstly, apologies if this seems similar to my other query today on prospective builds, but I was wondering what kind of performance people are getting with the fx6300 – standard fps on best appearance / best performance, in world play, spvp, instances and wvw?
Can an overclocked 6300 give you enough power to run the game comfortably above 30 fps, or does it stutter too much to enjoy the game?
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See, I want the fx 6300 system but most people say it’s a useless cpu for GW2, comparable to a pentium duo core. But most people have higher standards than me, I consider anything above 30 fps acceptable and am willing to turn down settings in WvW so I’m not sure if they’re overestimating my requirements. I suppose I’ll have to go for the I5 7870 model, it’s still relatively cheap for £490.
With whatever I buy I’m doing a fresh install, and can use the disk drive from my current set up (gt9800 q9900, playable at 20 fps medium, keeping for gf)
The other option is an I5 with a gt 650 ti, but that would get me less performance in games aside from GW2.
I definitely think that the I5 is the better option, but it’s £50 more which is just over what I’d intended to spend. There is an I5 system available in my price range with what looks like the same graphics card etc. but the listings in German and I can’t read it, so not sure if I’m missing anything!
Don’t suppose anyone speaks German? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUFRUST-PC-INTEL-CORE-i5-3350P-HD-7870-2GB-8GB-DDR3-1333-Computer-/310576224338?pt=DE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_PC_Systeme&hash=item484fc91852
Would that be better suited than the FX 6300 system?
Yeah the I7’s not on the table unfortunately. If money wasn’t a factor obviously it would be my first choice, but I’m looking for a sub £500 system that can work within the parameters I described, and those are the best two I could find within that budget.
I mainly want advice on whether the 6300 system is capable for the objectoves I set or if I’ll need to fork out for the I5 system.
Hi,
I’m looking at two potential systems to run GW2. My current runs on medium – low, and I want to be able to up the ante a bit.
The choices are
Case : Galaxy 3 Modern Midi Tower Case
Power Supply : 750 Watt With Power Cable Supplied
Motherboard : Asus P8H61-MX USB3
CPU : Intel I5 3470 Quad Core CPU
Hard Drive : 500gb Sata Hard Drive
Memory : 4gb DDR3 1600mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory
Graphics Card : ATI 7870 2gb (Tripple screen support via DVI / HDMI / DISPLAY PORT)
Optical Drive : 24x Dual Layer DVD Writer
Warranty : 12 Months Return To Base (Parts & Labour)
Connections : 6 x USB 2.0 / 2 x USB 3.0 / LAN / Sound
Software : Drivers Only ( see shop for o/s options)
vs
Case : Vantage Blue Midi Tower Case + 4 120mm Fans
Power Supply : 750 Watt With Power Cable Supplied
Motherboard : Asus M5A78L-M USB3
CPU : AMD FX 6300 Six Core CPU (turbo 4.1Ghz)
Hard Drive : 500gb Sata Hard Drive
Memory : 4gb DDR3 1600mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory
Graphics Card : ATI 7870 2gb (Tripple screen support via DVI / HDMI / DISPLAY PORT)
Optical Drive : 24x Dual Layer DVD Writer
Warranty : 12 Months Return To Base (Parts & Labour)
Connections : 6 x USB 2.0 / 2 x USB 3.0 / LAN / Sound
Software : Drivers Only ( see shop for o/s options)
I know the I5 out performs the 6300, but playing both on high, and putting specs down to medium for dungeons / wvw, would I notice too much of a difference? there’s a £50 price difference, which pushes me just beyond my budget so I don’t want to pay for the I5 unless I absolutely have to. It’s probably worth noting that my monitors only 1600 × 900.
Hi,
I’m a level 80 Condition based thief in the UK, been playing since day 1 (level 80 week 1) Got full exotic gear, aside from weapons / trinkets. Master leather worker on my main, and near master tailor on an alt (10 levels or so to go) My original guild moved servers a couple of months ago and I stuck behind, and made a small guild for me and a couple of friends to mess around in; but they’re barely on any more, and the less they play the less inclined I am to play.
I play on Far Shiverpeaks but would consider guesting / a server change later on.
Looking for a slightly larger, active, mature & fun guild that I can play with the majority of the time (will keep the old guild open, for when my friends do come on and such, which is rare.) I have work commitments and such, but can commit to a couple of nights a week for dungeons, so long as I know in advance.
Don’t want any massive / super elite guilds, just a friendly fairly numbered group of people who enjoy having fun and progressing in the game. The more social the better, and a group with a good sense of humor would be a massive plus. I split my game time between WvW / SPvP / general wandering / the odd dungeon, but due to a lack of people to dungeon with I’ve not experienced all the dungeons yet, so I’d appreciate a bit of patience with me while I find my feet in some of them!
Thanks for your consideration!
Hi,
I’m a level 80 Condition based thief in the UK, been playing since day 1 (level 80 week 1) but only intermittently. Got full exotic gear, aside from weapons / trinkets. Master leather worker on my main, and near master tailor on an alt (10 levels or so to go) My original guild moved servers a couple of months ago and I stuck behind, and made a small guild for me and a couple of friends to mess around in; but they’re barely on any more.
Looking for a slightly larger, active, mature & fun guild that I can play with the rest of the time (as my friends are only on once every week or so.) I have work commitments and such, but can commit to a couple of nights a week for dungeons, so long as I know in advance.
Don’t want any massive / super elite guilds, just a friendly fairly numbered group of people who enjoy having fun and progressing in the game. The more social the better, and a group with a good sense of humor would be a massive plus. I split my game time between WvW / SPvP / general wandering / the odd dungeon, but due to a lack of people to dungeon with I’ve not experienced all the dungeons yet, so I’d appreciate a bit of patience with me while I find my feet in some of them!
Thanks for your consideration!
As stated above, about to finish off my new build before I buy in All the parts! comes in at less than £500 without peripherals; if anyone else can think of a better build for Guild Wars 2 on a similar budget, please let me know!
Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: Tonight
Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping: £500 all inclusive, unless you can give me a big boost for less than £100 more
System Usage from Most to Least Important: MMO Gaming, Strategy Games, FPS, Watching Netflix, General browsing
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: PC Part Picker UK (Amazon, ebuyer, etc.)
Location: Leeds UK
Parts Preferences: No preference, although seem to get more for AMD for the price
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 1280 × 1024
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Max out guild wars 2
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MDi1
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MDi1/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MDi1/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£50.39 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (1 × 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£26.60 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.48 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£171.62 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Xigmatek Asgard II Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.58 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£34.15 @ Aria PC)
Total: £459.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-27 21:59 GMT+0000)34.15
Yeah, I’d heard GW2 was mainly CPU intensive… how about if I went for the FX 6300? Something along the lines of -
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£66.20 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 × 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.21 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£171.62 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Xigmatek ASGARD PRO (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.96 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£47.93 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £507.13
Would I be able to run everything Max then? And thanks for taking the time to respond, is massively appreciated.
Hi, I’m looking at building the below spec, and I was wondering if this will be enough for WvW on ultra? if anyone is running a similar set up I’d love to hear how it plays.
CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 × 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Total: £504.27
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
I’ve been running the above build for a little while now (0/0/0/30/20/20, pretty much full carrion gear), and it seems to be working really well for me in WvWvW, but I never hear anything good about it in the forums / youtube videos. All I see with D/D is burst builds, only condition builds I see are P/D (Which personally I’m not a fan of.)
Although I like my build and the ethos is to play how you want to play, I do feel like I’ve taken a complete wrong turn somewhere and am missing out on a lot of potential damage. I was dueling against my old guild leaders P/D build, with similar traits, and he was pwning me most of the time (although he is just a better player in general) and he was quite critical of my choice of weapons / traits (such as taking caltrops on dodge, and opting for D/D in general)
My usual rotation is steal/dodge to get close, LDB x3, dodge 3 times for caltrops (returned endurance from traits) Blinding powder, backstab, repeat if init will allow, stay in shadows (& heal while in stealth from traits) let the conditions tick for a few seconds & then HS when they’re low.
Is anyone else running a similar build, and if so is it working out for you? or has anyone else used this build and then moved on to something more effective, and if so how did you modify your play style / what benefits did you gain?
Thanks for your comments in advance.
Hi,
I’m the leader of a very small guild, at the moment just me, my housemate and my girlfriend. I’ve played since day one and been a member of other guilds, but after coming back to the game after a few months downtime, we decided to start up on our own.
We’re not looking for elite players, just a few extra friends to join us in WvW / Structured PvP / Dungeon runs.
We don’t aim to be the biggest, nor the most influential guild, but we have friends in other larger WvW guilds to back us up and give us advice / a helping hand when we need it. Quality over quantity is what we aim for.
If you want a place where you’re opinion will matter, and to make a few fun friends to play the game with, we might be the place for you.
Level & gear isn’t important; we’ll help you get what you need to be effective in whatever you want to do. Personality is what we’re looking for, people who don’t qq, or take things too seriously, and play primarily for fun.
So if you’re on Far Shiverpeaks, leave a message and we’ll be in touch!