Guild Wars 2

Victory.2879:

I don’t see what is wrong with a simple ‘winner moves up, loser moves down’ system, at least it would give the winners of T8 or whatever a chance to move up and try a harder tier.

It would also encourage people to move to the lower tiers to balance things out, as they would know they won’t become stuck in the pit of doom that the current rating system creates.

The current ratings system doesn’t work.

Something like that ?
1st : go up in the next tier
2nd : stays in the same tier
3rd : goes down one tier

Lara Croft.5807:

Repuran.1859:

Viz going to take the blame for the death of EU T1 yet?

...or are the opponents to take the blame of not being strong enough, maybe?

God knows.... best would be to find a solution, not to blame, no?

Everyone go blame Anet §§

By the way, on a more serious note, i’m a little shocked to see there has never ever been any kind of official statement about the state of the game in EU T1 / rating systeme broken, etc.
Even a "we don’t care, we set the rules, deal with it"-kind of statement.
I made a thread a week or two ago asking for the logs on T1, lenght of the queue, number of players on the maps on a given week ... no answer although it has been done on US T1.
I feel abandoned by Arenanet at the moment

Edit : ok, now i look stupid, i REALLY should have read that last page before posting

Don’t forget one thing, put yourself in VS shoes.

Let’s go back 2 months ago. VS is dominating WvW, and a server is created in order to counter and crush it, namely SFR. They do great actually, and manage to win several time.
At that time, there is a general call to arm on VS side, and we come back more motivated than ever. And then ... Anet patches the game. Huge blobs on all sides. SFR wounded by the free transfer.
But VS did less suffer from it than the other T1 servers i think. We always had queue, but also "educated pugs", who’ll follow the lead, and, even if they’re maybe not as efficient as a guild raid, they still do pretty good.
And now SFR falls.
But on VS side, we just got re-motivated, and suddenly we don’t have any opposition left (as a matter of speach this isn’t technically true, but with a lot of great guilds leaving SFR/Deso, VS adapting to the patch while SFR/Deso take more time or people leave the server because they’re more looking for GvG instead of the actual WvW, the opposition is greatly diminished). So what now ? VS carries on with the call to arm momentum, and finds demoralised ennemies to fight. Hence a vicious circle, the more VS wins, the less Deso/SFR want to play.

I don’t think VS deserves all the bashing there is on these forums. Blame Anet for the patch / free transfer, blame the absence of actual GvG, blame the way WvW is designed, but I don’t see how you can blame a server for playing and winning.

In my honest opinion, tomorrow’s update and the introduction of GvG’s arena will be a nice solution to this whole WvW problem, a lot of WvW guilds will finally be able to do the GvG they were looking for in WvW.

And as for the tier 1/2 not mixing, a week or two, and there will be atleast one transfer T1>2 and vice-versa.

Leorcyn.1063:

That’s pretty amazing how the night-capping is a French cultural thing.
It’s like it’s in our genes.

Any sociologist would like to try to explain the whys and the hows ?

20 people over a whole server play at night. Yeah, they’re prepare bashing cause they have no life etc. But eh, i’ve been one of these. A few guildies still are (i’m not playing too much wvw atm cause it’s boring), and there’s a really nice mood in the night, everyone just take their time and enjoy when they have fights. Of these people, i’ve never had to deal with canadian (not saying there aren’t any, but i’m not seeing any), the northestern i’ve seen are belgium, talk about a 12h offtime.

Honestly, i still don’t understand how big WvW guilds from Eu servers manage not to get people playing off the prime time. VS is one country, on deso/sfr you got from GB to Russia, that’s basically a 01h timespan (GMT+0 / GMT+10).
We’re not talking about a gazillion people playing at night, just a couple students/jobless/retired/working nightshift people.
That’s the real threat to you ? Come on, be serious for once.
The only strenght of VS is it’s identity. PUG’s really belong there. The age of pugs in TS is huge, it must be around 90+, and except of a couple of guild raids at prime, when they manage to get in, all guilds are in the same TS (cf the screen provided in the official T1 thread).

Thanks for the laugh guys :d

And the almighty VS with a gazillion players (yeah, there’s a limit of players on the map, but you know, we seem to have found a way to get around it and get even moar people to get into our 800-players bubble -oh, i forgot to mention other T1 Eu servers don’t blob. Ever.- ) is responsible for the downfall of the other servers.

Stop QQ’ing and get real. You came in wanting to kick us out of T1, you only managed to get us stronger at the end, sorry to let us win, because we’d never win if you didn’t wanted us to.

I hope all GvG guilds will stop kittening about WvW, where they have no place (open field combat and tower defence/cap is meant to happen, not limited group size duel), when the next patch will be released with the custom arenas.

Get yourself together and go fight in WvW, not here.