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The oath was ridiculous for all non humans especially for Charr, i really think this is such a violation of the established Charr lore that it warrants a fix. Charr has a strict disciplined and militaristic social structure where the legion and war band comes before the individual, the idea that a Charr centurion would swear a lethal oath of allegiance to a foreign military order so haphazardly is completely preposterous.
The Charr PC needed permission from their respective tribune even to join the pact to fight dragons, look at what happened to tribune Rytlock when he stepped out of line fight Mordremoth instead of following his duty, he was escorted back to the citadel for investigation.
This could be fixed by giving the Charr PC an order from the citadel to assist the shinning blade instead of the oath, just like the blood legion did on Lake Doric.
Even if the commander is not a Charr to swear an oath that places the interests of Kryta as paramount is very odd because the interests of Tyria doesn’t always align with the interests of Kryta as demonstrated during the season 2 world summit, the queen was reluctant to send troops against the jungle dragon for Tyria because it would leave Kryta weakened and vulnerable therefore, a conflict of interests.
I know that Guild Wars 2 is not suppose to be all serious but the shinning blade is the highest level of Krytan military superseding the seraph and the ministry guard in authority. If there is one place in human lore to be serious it would be the inner circle of the shinning blade.
Please for the love of Tyria just fix the oath, my Charr centurion PC can not be part of that club honorary or otherwise.
why should a charr, that worked with humans, fought side by side with humans against dragons, joined order that is at least partially composed of humans, have problems working with the shining blade?
At that part of character development, the charr char should either grown enough to see beyond the species – or should not be part of the story anymore.
Two reasons, one top-down, the other bottom-up:
1. As a Charr, he should still be loyal to the Legions. That’s not something you just “get over” when it’s been a tight bond of your social structure since childhood. GW2 never really addresses this, but it the sort of loss the character endures, more than once, should be devastating. Add in that Kryta is barely an ally (cease-fire, not a treaty), and the notion of forging a soul-binding agreement to a human (still a potential enemy) cult should be a non-starter.
2. As a former leader of the Pact, the character should be free of complicated entanglements and loyalties to a particular sovereignty. Theoretically, this would include his home nation, or he would be pressured to step down. None of the PC characters, regardless of race, should have made that choice, especially for a simple scrap of information.
I would disagree on this. Charr characters are beyond their loyalty to their legion. Have you ever reported your actions to the Black Citadel after you joined an order? The destiny of the PC is very singular in this aspect and he proved it on many occasions. Sure it is maybe easier for other races but in that sense I find the Charr perspective much more interesting.
Not being commander of the Pact is also a nice occasion for the PC to actually enter some secret societies, a thing he would never have done before, you are right. But now he’s free of this duty and able to take his own decision without taking care of the implications of such choices because he is “only” former commander.
On top of this, Anise is clear that being part of the inner circle does not imply too many duties in PC’s case, just do not fight against the sovereign of Kryta. She actually pushes the oath in PC’s favour so that he can get some intel she would literaly die for revealing. She said clearly she’s having an eye on the PC since years and it is clear she would have been less secretive to him if he would have been part of the Shining Blade since the beginning.
No Charr is beyond their legion, the Charr PC was ordered by their tribune to join the pact and act as a link between pact and citadel command. The Charr PC helping the pack is obeying their instruction from the citadel. My charr didn’t need to report because he was following the legion’s direction without which he would never been permitted to join the pact orders in the first place.
The citadel command overrides the pact for charr, this is best demonstrated when Rytlock was summoned by the citadel for interrogation because he joined the pack to fight Modremoth without order from the citadel. His duty was to end the ghosts in ascalon, yet when he returned he didn’t report immediately and he faced the consequence. This shows no Charr can disobey the legion not even the tribune and not even to fight dragons and definitely not to work with the shinning blade.
This episode probably has the worst story for my character, i simply hate the fact that my charr character joined the “inner circle” of the shinning blades. I play a charr serving in the ash legion for gods sake he most definitely would not take that oath or be allowed to by the humans.
My Charr didn’t just join a guild like destiny’s edge or dragon’s watch, he joined/cooperated with a foreign government intelligence agency at the highest level without orders from command which is treason.
BTW for those who dont play Charr
the Charr PC never left the legion instead the Charr PC asked for and was granted military leave from their respective tribune to join the pact as special assignment, it was explicitly stated that the Charr PC is still a centurion of their respective legion.
I have low expectation for MMO stories but this is just preposterous, whats next a human joins the legion? an asura joins the sylvari first born?
A lot of this episode is just fillers running around doing heart quests, sure its cool to have human ghosts shout at my charr but it is nothing compare to the fact that my charr is now part of the shinning blade. It just reminds me how ridiculous it is that the charr responsible for two human genocide in ascalon and orr is now part of the human secret service “INNER CIRCLE”.
In addition the info we got was so underwhelming, everyone knew shinning blade wanted to kill Lazarus that’s not a secret, the white mantle is public enemy after they attacked divinity’s reach.
This oath and Braham’s tantrum are the two flies in the ointment for season 3 story telling and in this episode they seem to change the commander’s attitude toward Braham’s actions based on player feedback. It suggests it is impossible to fix an episode’s story once it is out, which is a shame since no matter what happens in future story Braham’s tantrum and the shinning blade oath will always be ridiculous at the time of their presentation.
From Scarlet to world summit to the pact assembling the hot expansion was well setup, season 3 chased after white mantle, lazarus, primordus and jormag all of which now seems irrelevant to the next expansion. I sincerely hope the announcement sets up the next expansion well, so far it seems shoddily done.
(edited by Xslan.4675)
Go to Options-Collision Sensitivity-Slide All the Way Right.
This fixed the fight for me.