Guild Wars 2

Ayrilana.1396:

So if I spout off an insult against you, and it offends you, then that must mean you have a guilty conscience. Yeah… makes a lot of sense.

It doesn’t matter what the original game sold for. Your complaint was that you felt you were buying the core game with the expansion which was wrong.

This isn’t WoW. GW2 and WoW have different business models. Anet stated there reasoning for why new players get the core game as a free bonus.

This topic as 7K replies because it’s a compilation of all threads related to this subject. If you feel that the number of posts in this thread is relevant then the people who want mounts deserve to have that addressed before the people in this thread.

Is “white knight” a insult? Actually not, it’s a word that happens to describe your role in this topic, but it doesn’t insult you as a person since I don’t even know you.
I’m beginning to wonder if I’m biting a troll-bait with you, but I’ll gamble once again: the business model doesn’t mean there aren’t objective factors in a market.
GW2 doesn’t make you pay a monthly fee, but there are micro-transactions and you pay full price on the retail/cd key.
WoW has a lower price on the retail, but has a monthly subscription.
The difference in that is that Blizzard use a different system than ArenaNet to handle servers and players, but ArenaNet could have put a monthly subscription without micro-transactions and no one would have pointed a scandal.
They offer a different service, so players’ expectations are different.
The business model isn’t related to Hot’s price, that’s your assumption based on what Arenanet told about Vanilla+HoT for new players, but it doesn’t concern its own price.. it could have been 30$/€ or 50 for what we know.

Oh and btw: actually many videogames’ sites have written articles about this topic, about Hot’s price for old players, their reactions and stuff.
So, I’m sorry, but this whole situation has a bit more relevance than you think.

Said so, I said my opinion about this topic, it’s a +1 for those who started this, I hope Arenanet will think about it.
In case they will not, I will wait for a price’s drop.
Have fun Ayrilana, no hard feelings but for me it’s time to move on and do something else.

Ayrilana.1396:

Doesn’t matter. You complained that you’re being charged for the core game and the expansion content where new players get both for the same price. Same deal with Skyrim. I bought Skyrim for $60. If I were to get the expansion content, I would buy the legendary edition which includes the original game.

Oh. Insults also tend to make anything you say come off as less credible.

Insults? “White knight”? If you felt that as an insult, maybe that’s because you have a guilty conscience

By the way, the fault in your logic is very simple, my dear friend: GW2 vanilla was still sold at 25-30$/€ before becoming f2p.
It’s not like the game decreased its price over time, excluding the online cd key stores that aren’t always trustworthy.
Does that means Arena.net has to refund all the players who have bought the game? Obviously not.
But making pay the expansion without any sort of discount for old players and giving that sop of char’s slot, meh, isn’t very classy of them.

I make an example:
Blizzard, with WoW, made every expansion around 20-30$ (or €), but if you don’t have the vanilla game and the previous expansions you can’t play the new content.
What does that mean? That old players are, somehow, advantaged in buying just the expansion, but new players have to buy the whole package.. but the vanilla’s and old expansions’ prices drop every time.

Said so, my point of view on the matter is simple: I will not buy the expansion at day one, I will probably wait the price drops to what I think is a fair price for a expansion, and I don’t think I’m the only one to think that otherwise this topic wouldn’t have 7k replies.

Ayrilana.1396:

Zeross.3576:

I’m not gonna spend 45€ for a expansion that includes the vanilla content, since I already bought GW2 vanilla on 2012.
It doesn’t seem right, I mean new players get base game+expansion at the same price old players get only the expansion?
If it was half the price for players who already own GW2 then I would have understood and maybe have bought it, but at the moment it doesn’t look very appealing.
And 1 character’s slot surely doesn’t cover the overprice of the expansion, let’s not even joke about it.

Skyrim Legendary Edition for $40.

Expansion/DLC content $45

Skyrim basic edition originally sold for $60

So new players get everything for $40 when old players had to pay $105. Or even cheaper than that. What a rip off, right? /sarcasm

This has been the norm in the industry for quite some time…

And FYI, you’re not being charged for the core game of GW2. It’s free for those who purchase the expansion and apply it towards a new or F2P account.

Skyrim is not free to play and it’s a singleplayer game without microtransaction: 1/10.

Next white knight, pls.

I’m not gonna spend 45€ for a expansion that includes the vanilla content, since I already bought GW2 vanilla on 2012.
It doesn’t seem right, I mean new players get base game+expansion at the same price old players get only the expansion?
If it was half the price for players who already own GW2 then I would have understood and maybe have bought it, but at the moment it doesn’t look very appealing.
And 1 character’s slot surely doesn’t cover the overprice of the expansion, let’s not even joke about it.