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Need help - how to deal with sustain ele

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I also LoL ed on the super mobility part :-).

There are things the ele can“t stand long.
In a teamfight if you focus the ele and one of the attackers is necro with corrupts the ele dies pretty fast.
Also a mesmer is a serious threat. The ele has to be extreamly careful to avoide killing himself on confusion and he has to watch for MOA.

Trying to kill the ele with projectiles? Forget it… you will loose the fight for your team.

1:1 with scrapper? Its a draw…… No one will die. Mostly …

In addition a +1 from a thief can make a quick kill on ele. It depends on the timing.
Also warriors are able to toss the poor ele around if they are good because classic bunker ele has low stability and their stunbreaking is often but not on demand if control is timed or chained.
And here we come back to scrapper. CC is your only chance to harm him.

nerf to slick shoes leaves me with only thunder clap and combo finishers to cc eles, and since they usually have more movement speed in fight that doesn’t last long.

Need help - how to deal with sustain ele

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Well this seems very problematic – from the suggestion the scrapper can only win if he is first on point vs ele 1v1 and right now they have more mobility then the scrappers so that kinda makes me lose always. What makes it even sadder that if someone comes to help we cant kill ele 1v2 (took about 1 min with a scrapper and Mesmer today – he was just running in circles on the point while we tried to dmg him) and they will kill me 1 v 2 whoever comes unless its another ele healer. Besides that all the suggestions are that you need to play different role which i don’t like since i am a type of player that takes a lot of time to master a class.

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Okey so i play pvp and whenever i see ele in enemy team i wanna go cry in a corner. Why so? Well that’s because they are hell incarnated in my opinion – they can stand 2 v 1 on the spot for hours with no way of forcing them off it and they are even more potent in team fights where their heals and buffs effect groups of people, making team fights auto lose unless enemy team is seeing their skills for the first time.

So i am here looking for advice how to fight them, they are too tanky to be focused down in team fight, and they are too impactfull to be left alone, they cleanse conditions that slows healing so that’s also not an options in countering them. they have superior mobility and tankynes to be picked off alone by one person and even with two its a waste of time considering the rest of the team has to fight a 3v4 which typically is auto lose, yet you cant ignore them or you will lose the point.
Which leaves them with no notable vulnerability.

I play power scrapper so i am here looking for help from experienced players – for offers of what can i do to have a chance vs this high speed brick of regeneration. What is their weakness and if none why the hell not.

You don’t see an ele….you see an ele who is using a an amulet made to bunker points and do no dmg, with healing power as main stat

On the other side there is a profession with a power amulet that has 0 healing power that has close to the sustain of the ele which invested everything he has into stay alive

Now I want to take the same power amulet on ele and then I want to you tell me how do I deal with the scrapper that will outsustain me all day

Also 2vs1 an ele and can’t win?…just go on ele and I come on the other profession, 200g you don’t last few secs after using obsidian flesh

.P.S Superior mobility?..lol kk

Yes i well avare that the elementalist has invested all into healing and that is the problem imo he is unbeatable that way wich makes one build so much more potent then the rest. Furthermore i dont see how you can win vs them as a power scrapper that’s why i am asking for help. I am trying to find a way because so far i got nothing.
Imo a healer and a buffer should be squishy so it could be quickly focused down in fights however be potent enough to win the game if not focused. Which should mean that the healing outgoing to the team should be bigger then the healing he does to himself. And that would be high risk high reward game play – staying alive with a squishy champ in a team fight healing others. Right now they are facerolling – a suitable play style fro bruisers not for supports.

I am not talking about damage dealing elementalist as i simply don’t know how competitive they are and i am not concerned about them in this post. However from my experience playing with my fried who is an elementalist i didn’t like him as dpser.
Considering other professions that has this much sustain they typically have that sustain for themselves only not for the whole team which makes them high sustain selfish classes that can be ignored and dealt with last in team fight in contrary ele cant be ignored. I didn’t see anyone besides elementalist withstand that long vs 2 or 3 people so far unless they retreat and heal – ele just run in circles around point giving no kitten whatsoever.

Consdering mobility – yes they have nerfed mobility in scrapper a lot – they nerfed the regen which means its now way less useful stacking super speed and they have nerfed slick shoos and there goes my mobility with these nerfs. I have tried using the previous build that had those after the update after losing more then 10 games in a raw i discarded for other utilities and that increased my win ratio but not as much as it was prepatch which means the nerf effected scrapper quite strongly.

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Need help - how to deal with sustain ele

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Okey so i play pvp and whenever i see ele in enemy team i wanna go cry in a corner. Why so? Well that’s because they are hell incarnated in my opinion – they can stand 2 v 1 on the spot for hours with no way of forcing them off it and they are even more potent in team fights where their heals and buffs effect groups of people, making team fights auto lose unless enemy team is seeing their skills for the first time.

So i am here looking for advice how to fight them, they are too tanky to be focused down in team fight, and they are too impactfull to be left alone, they cleanse conditions that slows healing so that’s also not an options in countering them. they have superior mobility and tankynes to be picked off alone by one person and even with two its a waste of time considering the rest of the team has to fight a 3v4 which typically is auto lose, yet you cant ignore them or you will lose the point.
Which leaves them with no notable vulnerability.

I play power scrapper so i am here looking for help from experienced players – for offers of what can i do to have a chance vs this high speed brick of regeneration. What is their weakness and if none why the hell not.

Help I'm stuck in a PvP Match!

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we got stuck now out but match still ongoing – cant start new ones

S.O.S Stuck in PvP map.

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Stuck in map – same as the primary posts, any quick solutions that work besides the cache deleting?