Guild Wars 2

Archeia.8905:

SoS’s time in T2 is numbered. TC and FA both want SoS out of T2.
All I can say is keep up the good work and you’ll have a more permanent spot in T2 before you know it.

I thoroughly enjoyed having DB in T2, there were some quality fights early in the week, something SoS hasn’t given us in many, many months – You guys deserved to win last week!

Can’t wait til you’re back here in T2, Focus on the Glicko, it may take a fair bit of work but we will most certainly be seeing you again!

Best WvW I’ve had. Even when we were outnumbered and desperately trying to use up supply on repairs before you took the towers it was great. The clashes were awesome. SMC flipping every 5 minutes between all 3 servers for over an hour was insane. Can’t wait to play against servers like you 2 again where it’s an actual fight.

Samis.1750:

You did well one week, but it takes a few week to catchup, else servers could push 1 week and then negate months of less points.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/357

We haven’t lost a week since week 29 2015.
That’s a 38 match win streak.

now obviously we’ve been gaining slowly since that time.

But if they can see the fault of their ranking system in pvp and start awarding streak mmr then the same principles should allow slacking or tryharding servers to gain and lower ranks faster in wvw too.

Glicko is meant to keep people from losing tons of mmr from unpredictable matchup loss streaks or gain tons. That’s a problem for huge player bases and smurf accounts. It solves a problem wvw doesn’t have, and in ‘solving’ it, it stagnates movement between matchups to the point where everyone is just kind of sick of seeing the same tactics and fights over and over

I’m not saying there is an error in the implementation of glicko here…

I’m saying that using glicko is more suited to chess which it was designed for which has a player pool of hundreds of thousands of unknowns matching against each other with no prior histories and where skill level per ‘player’ usually increases at a steady rate.

That’s just not how wvw goes though. WvW ‘player’ skill level varies with lots of factors including population pve events real life events and the like. glicko seeks to reduce variance that can result in too many points being awarded in match ups where there is no prior game history to draw conclusions from and it does a good job at that. It places a lot of weight on old wins and minimizes recent fluctuations.

WvW does not need that correction and should embrace servers pushing for wins and being rewarded for them.

hunterAS.5107:

You should focus on Mag instead of whining.. the only reason you won that matchup is because FA and TC tanked it.

What a joke. Last time we matched with maguuma it was DB 364874 SBI 242625 and Mag with an awful 141222.

We more than doubled their score, and you think we should worry about them because they tryharded the first 3 hours of the week?

SOS hadn’t won their tier in forever [ever?] and we did. Seems like glicko isn’t the right ranking system for such a small pool with stale and tired matchups and winners not showing progress for winning.

Why would anyone bother when you dominate for months and months and when you finally move a tier and actually win it treats you like you lost and puts you back down.

As title says.

We knocked SOS out of a t2 spot for last week for the first time in forever. SOS typically loses their t2 matches by a large margin.

DB WON in T2.

SOS moves back up and DB moves back down into ZZZ t3 matchup.

wtf?!